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  • Does anyone else feel that Miyuki is an overly spoilt brat who's never had to work hard for anything and somehow believes she *deserves* Tatsuya because "reason"? She clearly doesn't have a handle on her actions when it comes to Tatsuya as she loses it whenever there's even a hint of her brother even POSSIBLY being slightly attracted to or someone else attracted to him.

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    • Had Mayumi done anything for Tatsuya?

      Had Honaka done anything for Tatsuya?

      Had Lina done anything for Tatsuya?

      Let me answer that for you, they have done nothing for him.

      In Miyuki's case, she would do anything for Tatsuya. Her entire life is litarally dedicated to him. She would live and die for him, something those girls are incapable of doing.

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    • And it's good that we have someone like you who knows the inner workings of someone's head to let us plebs know...................oh wait.............Miyuki is just creepy about it all.

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    • if you think Miyuki is spoilt I would like to listen of what you think of Mayumi.

      THAT is a really spoiled girl, always cared by her father and family,  always had everything She wished for. Of all the females she is the most spoiled one.

      Miyuki: absent father, dead mother, really strict upbringing, had no free choices in her life. She lived a lie or blind until she was 12.

      Lina: raised as a soldier and used like a tool.

      Honoka: do you know how bad her relation with her parents must be? She lives alone and is practically adopted by the Kitayama

      Erika: She had the worst of them all.

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    • ^ It was never stated that Honoka has a bad relationship with her family. Her father is often away for extended periods of time due to work (he works for one of the numbered families) and so Honoka spends a lot of time over at the Kitayama's residence so they can watch over her. They have been close friends since middle school.

      Mayumi has had a harder life than you make it seem. First of all, her father's relationship with her mother is strained and her mother is sent away from the main Saegusa house for treatment. Her older brothers also don't treat Mayumi and her sisters as that great or like close family since they have a different mother. Not to mention Kouichi is always trying to arrange a political marriage for Mayumi and using her.

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    • Name a more repulsive character than Miyuki in Mahouka

      protip : you can't 

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    • 208.123.223.202 wrote:
      Name a more repulsive character than Miyuki in Mahouka

      protip : you can't 


      Saegusa Kouichi

      Zhou Gongjin

      Jiedo Heigu

      Morisaki

      ShIppou Takumi

      Mayumi because she is nothing more than a character than ponders to people who can't bet their dicks out of their pants.


      Compare to a lot of characters, Miyuki is much more complex than any of them. Yes, she's portrayed as perfect, so is Tatsuya. That makes them a pair.

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    • isn't waifu your biological brother a little SO FUCKING TOO DISGUSTING

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    • watch your language please

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    • Guys, u know I liked Miyuki loads till Vol 16, and ever since their engagement she is being a little ignorant I can say maybe towards Tatsuya. Its like she is failing to understand him due to the fear of losing him? And those who say Miyuki's childhood and life were miserable, anybody considered Tatsuya's? Lost emotions when 6, stayed as a servant to his own sister who to used to discard him as an outsider, father who still avoids him. Even now he is only being used by Maya. That guy is an awesome person, he has given up everything for this girl. And now if u see the spoilers for new volumes, its quite saddening. 

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    • 42.106.32.254 wrote:
      Guys, u know I liked Miyuki loads till Vol 16, and ever since their engagement she is being a little ignorant I can say maybe towards Tatsuya. Its like she is failing to understand him due to the fear of losing him? And those who say Miyuki's childhood and life were miserable, anybody considered Tatsuya's? Lost emotions when 6, stayed as a servant to his own sister who to used to discard him as an outsider, father who still avoids him. Even now he is only being used by Maya. That guy is an awesome person, he has given up everything for this girl. And now if u see the spoilers for new volumes, its quite saddening. 

      where do you find the spoilers? I read in this site prediction but doesnt find anything that saddening, where do you find it?


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    • 41.235.133.187 wrote:
      isn't waifu your biological brother a little SO FUCKING TOO DISGUSTING

      Of the two, only Tatsuya perceives his sibling as a full-fledged family member, because fraternal feelings the basis of his "emotions". At the same time, Miyuki in her own words, never perceived it as a full brother due to the peculiarities of their childhood. So purely moral is a more difficult question than you think.

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    • 42.106.32.254 wrote:
      Guys, u know I liked Miyuki loads till Vol 16, and ever since their engagement she is being a little ignorant I can say maybe towards Tatsuya. Its like she is failing to understand him due to the fear of losing him? And those who say Miyuki's childhood and life were miserable, anybody considered Tatsuya's? Lost emotions when 6, stayed as a servant to his own sister who to used to discard him as an outsider, father who still avoids him. Even now he is only being used by Maya. That guy is an awesome person, he has given up everything for this girl. And now if u see the spoilers for new volumes, its quite saddening. 

      In general, I agree with you, and even see the author hints to further change the situation. But on the other hand, I would like to point out that due to lack of Tatsuya strong emotions, the line of his "suffering" came out very weak, so both because of the lack of emotions we do not see his feelings on the matter, which is why this him becomes difficult to empathize. However, seeing as Miyuki with his desire to get his brother as a husband, formally helps Maya even more in the chain shackle Tatsuya, I really felt sorry for him. I love Miyuki  more than the other girls from Mahouka, but it pains me to see how he consciously agrees to incest for her happiness.

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    • While Tatsuta is bound to the Yotsuba through Miyuki, I don't think Miyuki intends to chain Tatsuya through pledge once she becomes the head and has a say in the matter. Also it's not just Miyuki's happiness, it's for Tatsuya's. The only way he can feel stronger emotions is through his relationship with Miyuki, he chose this path after vol 16 for this reason because it is convenient for him. If Miyuki was not betrothed to him they would likely be separated after she married.

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    • 70.183.160.236 wrote:
      While Tatsuta is bound to the Yotsuba through Miyuki, I don't think Miyuki intends to chain Tatsuya through pledge once she becomes the head and has a say in the matter. Also it's not just Miyuki's happiness, it's for Tatsuya's. The only way he can feel stronger emotions is through his relationship with Miyuki, he chose this path after vol 16 for this reason because it is convenient for him. If Miyuki was not betrothed to him they would likely be separated after she married.



      And how it could weaken the chain after marriage? Sam married and it was conceived as a way to keep him on a short leash, especially since you yourself have acknowledged that they can not be corroded. On the other hand, I think that about themselves Tatsuya thought at least, in the first place all the same happiness Miyuki for him, rather than his own well-being.

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    • And how it could weaken the chain after marriage? The meaning of their marriage and it was conceived as a way to keep him on a short leash, especially since you yourself have acknowledged that they can not be divided.On the other hand, I think that Tatsuya was thinking about his well-being in the last instance, in the first place for him all the same happiness Miyuki*

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    • 82.145.220.186 wrote: And how it could weaken the chain after marriage? The meaning of their marriage and it was conceived as a way to keep him on a short leash, especially since you yourself have acknowledged that they can not be divided.On the other hand, I think that Tatsuya was thinking about his well-being in the last instance, in the first place for him all the same happiness Miyuki*

      I was refering to the spell pledge, which is casted by Tsukuba family using Miyuki as the lock and key. This is done on the order of Maya. Both Miyuki and the Tsukubas feel guilty for their roles in this. Outside of pledge once Miyuki is head she will be the only one who will have any authority over Tats and I find it unlikely she will exercise that power over him.

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    • 70.183.160.236 wrote:

      82.145.220.186 wrote: And how it could weaken the chain after marriage? The meaning of their marriage and it was conceived as a way to keep him on a short leash, especially since you yourself have acknowledged that they can not be divided.On the other hand, I think that Tatsuya was thinking about his well-being in the last instance, in the first place for him all the same happiness Miyuki*

      I was refering to the spell pledge, which is casted by Tsukuba family using Miyuki as the lock and key. This is done on the order of Maya. Both Miyuki and the Tsukubas feel guilty for their roles in this. Outside of pledge once Miyuki is head she will be the only one who will have any authority over Tats and I find it unlikely she will exercise that power over him.


      I just can not imagine how she could, in principle, to give him his freedom in any form, if their marriage is in itself part of the plan for his "captivity"? Release him from the clan or not to let him make love to her, if he does not see her as a woman? You can imagine that this will never, for her love for him comes to the point,  where she formally itself helps bind it to a clan, unconsciously playing on his brotherly feelings. I understand that Miyuki sincerely do not wants to cause him any harm, but love makes her blind to real assessment of the situation.


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    • All this begins to seem particularly obvious when you realize that in spite of the already mentioned "she devoted her life to him and was ready to die for him," exactly he is still remains a servant of her and exactly he put his life on the altar for the sake of her happiness. So, no matter how much I like Miyuki, brother for her remains in exactly the same instrument, only in a rather peculiar way. Just Miyuki sincerely mistaken, believing that the objectification of her brother, she respects and appreciates it, whereas in reality she also wants to gain control over him and make Tatsuya "her".

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    • That because miyuki is the only one that can make tatsuya feel love for and he will do anything for her.

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    • No she’s not now go away

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    • Fujin of shadows wrote:
      Had Mayumi done anything for Tatsuya?

      Had Honaka done anything for Tatsuya?

      Had Lina done anything for Tatsuya?

      Let me answer that for you, they have done nothing for him.

      In Miyuki's case, she would do anything for Tatsuya. Her entire life is litarally dedicated to him. She would live and die for him, something those girls are incapable of doing.

      Well, in the end Tatsuya saved her and she is manipuleting him. So I don't like her. As for Miyuki, sorry, but every one would love a slave who could never harm him or her... As for what she did for Tatsuya, other than being his limiter is bayond me. for girls like Mayumi/ Honoka/Lina, It is impossiable for them to do anything for tats, since their relation never reached  to that point... oh well, I could not read the last few LN, as I can't find the English version, so I thinkk I should stop here..



      Thanks  

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    • Goglucifer wrote:
      Fujin of shadows wrote:
      Had Mayumi done anything for Tatsuya?

      Had Honaka done anything for Tatsuya?

      Had Lina done anything for Tatsuya?

      Let me answer that for you, they have done nothing for him.

      In Miyuki's case, she would do anything for Tatsuya. Her entire life is litarally dedicated to him. She would live and die for him, something those girls are incapable of doing.

      Well, in the end Tatsuya saved her and she is manipuleting him. So I don't like her. As for Miyuki, sorry, but every one would love a slave who could never harm him or her... As for what she did for Tatsuya, other than being his limiter is bayond me. for girls like Mayumi/ Honoka/Lina, It is impossiable for them to do anything for tats, since their relation never reached  to that point... oh well, I could not read the last few LN, as I can't find the English version, so I thinkk I should stop here..


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      I feel like you didn't read this novel carefully.

      1. Miyuki is not the one manipulation him. Yotsuba is. Beside that, no one could manipulating him at this time in novel, thanks to Miyuki.

      2. I'm really don't know what do you mean about the slave part. Does she treat him bad or something?

      3. The pledge is already gone in vol 23 and Miyuki is the one made it happen.

      Also in volume 23, Mayumi choosed Katsuto's side and pointed her CAD at Tatsuya, she even told Katsuto about Regrowth before the fight. (what a liar b*tch).

      Well, at least Miyuki try her best to help Tatsuya in many way, any other girls hadn't done anything for Tatsuya is the truth, no matter reason is.

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