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    • It's the detailed scene on how Tatsuya came to save Miyuki cs, when they were exposed to cast-jamming. The effect cast-jamming was really tough to Minami because of the noise, seeing Minami was in pain, Miyuki almost lost control because that reminded her about Honami in Okinawa.
    • Minami calmed down Miyuki by saying she's fine, and reminded her Tatsuya's order to Miyuki should refrain of using magic when the opponents are non-magicians due to her position as next leader of Yotsuba. Tatsuya said to Miyuki to rely on Minami as possible when he rushing to rescue. (This is from volume 18 though) Miyuki then calmed down, and made an encirclement of psion cloud which acted as cushion to reduce the effects of cast-jamming's noise.
    • And then Tatsuya came the scene. This scene is about Tatsuya playing with Humanist and on how he disabled 5 people in 3 seconds. Cameras caught everything that happen. Tatsuya even did say to Humanist to cease the confrontation and pointing to the camera that all proofs are there.
    • Tatsuya said this for his alibi. In his defence, he will be able to say his act was a proper self-defense. He disabled all Humanist purely with physical combat skill. No magic invoked and there's Fujibayashi in case of emergency. She will be able to remove any trace of magic that Tatsuya used just like she always did
    • Last paragraph, the humanist that lost the will to fight suddenly under control of spirit magic, and Tatsuya immediately disable that magic using gram demolition.


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    • That scene Tatsuya and Miyuki is in swimming pool, Tatsuya tried to soothe her, telling her everything will be okay, Miyuki's being nervous after she and her friends got attacked by a humanist group last volume, she was feared that Minami would end up like Honami and it brings back bad memory.


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    • After the humanist leader lost consciousness, he stood up again while raising both of his arms forward. On his hands, there are spiritual beings (SB), which is also called as element. But, it has an ominous purple flame, so Tatsuya thinks, "evil spirit"(邪靈) may be better name than "element".
    • The humanist leader had two weapons: Stun Whip and a handgun. A handgun is illegal, and a stun whip can only be gotten from a police or a supplier who supplies weapons to police force.
    • Once, Tatsuya has a visual contact with a person, Tatsuya can track him or her. But, if Tatsuya uses this power, Tatsuya has to stop monitoring Miyuki and concentrate on Gu Jie. Tatsuya thinks, Gu Jie is not worth enough for Tatsuya to stop watching over Miyuki.
    • Tatsuya can look into past for 24 hours prior to the present time (the time when he uses his eye to look into the past.)
    • Tatsuya cannot foresee the future. In this event, Tatsuya had a gut feeling that Miyuki may be in danger, and he was right.

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    Chapter 1

    • Miyuki, Minami, and Izumi would be really in trouble if Tatsuya didn't rescue them.
    • The hand of Humanist gang leader was tattooed as that tattoo became spirit magic beacon point. So the spirit magic immediately re-deployed even after blew out by Gram Demolition.
    • When Tatsuya re-trace back the "purple magic", he converted his eyes to see in Ideo Dimension, but was cut when Gu Jie killed Oumi Kazukyo (or Oumikazu Kyo? ). It was not Gu Jie's skill, but simply a gut feeling because of experience running away from many masterful practitioners.
    • Juumonji invited Shiba (half) sibling to meeting, with agenda of asking permission to assign bodyguard to Miyuki, which actually their intention (their I mean Juumonji, Ichijou and Mayumi) to make Miyuki as a bait to capture the remnant of Blanche and Egalite that infiltrate Humanist Movement.
    • When Tatsuya asking to Ichijou whether it was their intention or not, Ichijou strongly said that he could be a bait instead of Miyuki, hence their intention was spoiled unintentionally (The picture where they were in restaurant and Ichijou standing up)
    • Tatsuya didn't mad when the three of them tried to use Miyuki as bait. Only to ascertain their actual intent. But because the Humanist target was Izumi, the talk then changed to assign the bodyguard to Mayumi, as she's eldest daughter of Saegusa.
    • There's no indication of decision whether they're to assign bodyguard or not. Although Mayumi said she indeed has bodyguard but Juumonji then asked back that he never saw a person like that in campus, Mayumi then said she simply couldn't let them into campus.
    • Toudou Aoba was former owner of Magician Development Lab No. 4, said Yotsuba are not his underlings and he simply as Yotsuba's sponsor.
    • Also, Yakumo is not his underling or his right hand. Aoba was asking help and wanted to borrow his power. He specifically said to Yakumo to help Shiba Tatsuya in mission of repelling Gu Jie from Japan (dead or alive). Yakumo asked back Tatsuya wouldn't have a hard time dealing with Gu Jie, Aoba said not Gu Jie. Yakumo again said is it Canopus? Tatsuya is still stronger that Stars Numbers. Aoba said, indeed if it's unlawfully and simply fight to kill. The reward for helping him is 100 million yen.
    • He said to Yakumo that "Shiba Tatsuya is still useful". It meant there's still any chance to gather more data on Tatsuya' skill. Lawfully meant Tatsuya wouldn't be able to use Mist Dispersion, Partial Decomposition, etc which considered military secret. All he able to use is Gram Demolition.
    • Yakumo declined that amount of sum but the I forgot what Yakumo's excuse and what Aoba said with Yakumo's excuse. I remember that before Aoba leaving Kyuujouji, Aoba said to Yakumo, "The tea is bad as usual" with Yakumo only laughed it off
    • "Even though it's an accidental by products, he's just a part of the final/ultimate. I'll have him be more useful." Yakumo knew the meaning of those lines and felt sympathy for Tatsuya. Toudou old man's line "useful" means, Tatsuya is useful as guinea-pig for collecting many more data.


    Chapter 2

    • For Tatsuya-Miyuki shipper, you should read chapter 2 to know to what extent Tatsuya's feeling to Miyuki


    This timeline for this chapter was from Shiba (half) sibling coming back from restaurant to the next day 6 pm.

    After Tatsuya and Miyuki coming home, Minami said there's announcement from school that school would be closed for whole week because of Humanist attack (the info actually from chapter 11).

    At midnight, Tatsuya came to Miyuki's room to ask her something. Miyuki was in her negligee and revealing night gown. Tatsuya asked her to come to experiment room in underground at 4 am. Tatsuya said that with a subtle embarrassing face. He asked her to come whether in night gown, or swimsuit and asked before coming to shower first. Miyuki asked what should she do, but Tatsuya deferred to explain, said that he would explain in that room.

    Miyuki came with her swimsuit, and found Tatsuya was in half-pants swimwear too.

    Before asking something to Miyuki, he explained even though he had eyes to see Ideo Dimension (Information Dimension), it was not a type like clairvoyance. He said he moved the filtering process to his subconsciousness to order to lessen the burden on his resource (magic resource). In exchange for that he couldn't selective choose the info of what he want to see. With the resource he had, he could see anyone within the country however he currently didn't able to do that. The reason was half of his resource focused to Miyuki. Hearing that Miyuki said this strongly, "Onii-sama, then please let your eyes off me because I'm here, I'm safe and near you". However Tatsuya only said "I understand...", "I understand but, I can't do that" Tatsuya revealed that, even though he could see Miyuki in physical eyes, unless he maintained Elemental Sight on her, he wouldn't feel at ease. The moment he let his eyes off from Miyuki, he felt as if he was going to crazy.

    Then Tatsuya asked Miyuki to make him at ease and he embracing Miyuki from behind while he focused his eyes to search Gu Jie.

    Gu Jie at that time was still sleeping and when he felt the sight, he immediately woke up and deploy magic barrier circle. At first the barrier destroyed and he redeployed it. But no second time. There was no any wound in Gu Jie's body but he knew his position was already detected.

    Before morning practice in Kyuujouji, Tatsuya explained to Miyuki he intended to catch Gu Jie instead of eliminating him that's why he only break the first barrier. Tatsuya actually put the psion marker to Gu Jie's Eidos so he could always track Gu Jie at will.

    At the morning with usual practice, after training, Yakumo said/asked on how Tatsuya's mission progress. Tatsuya said "still no good" (with exclusion of what he did together with Miyuki at dawn). Yakumo then said that he would help if Tatsuya asking him. At first, Tatsuya thought Yakumo was joking so he took the bait and asking for help. Surprisingly (to Tatsuya), Yakumo agreed to help Tatsuya.

    The next actually info about how another school following the 1st high and 2nd high to close the school, Fumiya and Ayako visited their home be Miyuki's bodyguard for one week. And Tatsuya's conversation with Mayumi


    • It actually Tatsuya requested something, but it seemed funny on how he teased (bully?) Mayumi


    Tatsuya requested Mayumi to mobilize the police. Mayumi knew the intent but she still couldn't accept so easily. Because Tatsuya request was at noon (no indication of time though) and the requested time for mobilization was at night.

    She asked why to her? Tatsuya replied, because Saegusa had close relation with police. Hearing that she couldn't hide her bad mood because she need the power of her father. She then joked to Tatsuya to ask his "girlfriend" instead of her. She meant by "girlfriend" was Erika. Tatsuya replied back, "If Saegusa-senpai permitted it then I'd do so", immediately Mayumi said "Please, I beg you don't do that". Tatsuya then asked to confirm, "but the mobilization would be this night", she replied "I know, I know. I'll have it mobilized at dusk so please stop bully me anymore" (Actual lines 「分かったから!夕方までには手配するから!だからそんなにじめないで!」)


    Chapter 3

    • The pursuit 10MC were the members that decided in 10MC meeting, Saegusa Tomokazu, Juumonji Katsuto, Shiba Tatsuya and Ichijou Masaki.
    • The pursuit team divided into two, the first was consist only Tatsuya and Masaki which tasked to wait/ambush Gu Jie in his possible destination while Katsuto and Tomokazu pursuit/trail directly. Saw the teams division were not balanced, Katsuto suggested to send his men to be included in Tatsuya-Masaki team. Tomokazu didn't object it (or rather he welcomed the suggestion, in that way Saegusa could save their face by capturing Gu Jie)
    • In other hand/at the same time, Canopus who was waiting in Destroyer just outside Japanese sea territory started to order unlawful operative agents to disrupt the pursuit. Gu Jie was in back seat of car and assured by John Doe (alias, his actual name will be revealed later) that he already made preparation in case of pursuit. The disruption was in form of wagon which attacks with hand grenade launcher and big trailer that obstruct the intersection. The pursuit team failed miserably with many officers need to be brought with ambulance and the operation cars were destructed.
    • Tatsuya-Masaki ambushing in port but Doe changed their direction into beach (I didn't look up the kanji to know what its name). Tatsuya and Masaki pursued that car. However, Gu Jie ordered one of his corpse soldier to murder all the pursuer. That soldier, jump from car and attacking when in midair. Cutting Tatsuya's bike into two. Tatsuya ordered Masaki and Juumonji's men to continue the pursuit. When light came to soldier face, the soldier was Toshikazu. Tatsuya asked why Toshikazu as member 100 families helping terrorist. But Toshikazu didn't answer. Tatsuya "saw" Toshikazu's Eidos and he was certain that Toshikazu already dead. But why Toshikazu still be able to use magic? He was hesitant to blow the vital damage to Toshikazu because of lack analysis. However, he couldn't do the full analysis under the attack of skillful swordman.
    • So he only tried to ask whether Toshikazu's consciousness is there or not. Still no answer.
    • When he tried partial decomposition, Toshikazu discard Tatsuya's magic with Gram Demolitionn which surprised Tatsuya. He never heard the first son of Chiba was able to use Gram Demolition. He then looked it again, the Gram Demolition was actually the psion flood that flowed from Toshikazu's body. Tatsuya realized that Toshikazu's existence becoming thinner each time the psion flood. He understood that it was Toshikazu's life-force that became source of magic. Toshikazu was a corpse in middle of dying.
    • Understanding this, Tatsuya was angry toward Gu Jie that makes a magician/life-force as a play plaything (I hope I didn't misread it, or misinterpret it).
    • Toshikazu rotated the blade grip and changed slash the direction. The blade of long sword that already lost its form then mow down Tatsuya's stomach. "Gh!" Blood flowed from Tatsuya's stomach. He spontaneously spilled the pained voice. He then saw the source of psion was in Toshikazu's chest and put the vital blow to Toshikazu's chest. He was able to do that because Tatsuya received the blow first, canceled his auto-restore, and immediately deploy his partial decomposition with his fist.
    • Yakumo came afterward, Tatsuya questioned him but Yakumo reminded Tatsuya to heal his wound first. However Tatsuya realized that no proper answer could be taken from Yakumo he then asked Yakumo to do something with the lying corpse and continued to pursue Gu Jie.
    • Inagaki vs Masaki, Inagaki was the same ability to wield Gram Demolition. But Masaki already trained with many simulation especially with opponent who wield Gram Demolition after he suffered defeat in hand of Tatsuya. He deployed Rupture repeatedly faster than Inagaki's ability to flood the psion from his body so Inagaki was defeated.
    • John Doe was an alias, his actual name was Joseph Dow, an agent from USNA. When it was estimated the Gu Jie wouldn't be able to leave Japanese sea territory. He was ordered to kill Gu Jie but instead turned into Generator by Gu Jie. But because the lack of preparation, time and ritual, Joseph Dow didn't able to speak. He intended to interrogate Dow at first, but because Dow couldn't speak he discarded in intent.
    • The last is Canopus exercised Molecular Dividier using device in form of Japanese's sword. The sword area about length 700 meter with width (no exact indication) kinda narrow compared to the length. It just one slash cut. As soon after Molecular Divider destroyed the ship which Gu Jie's in, the psion marker disappeared.
    • Tomokazu wasn't involved in any battle, he couldn't continue the pursuit because the operation car was destroyed. Yakumo didn't involved in any fight. He even didn't help a hand when Tatsuya was fighting with Toshikazu. The car Katsuto was in didn't destroyed because he was slightly left behind to defend the team from hand grenade launcher. So that's why he was able to continue pursuing Gu Jie. Katsuto had a quite significant battle, especially with unlawful operative agents. The illustration picture Katsuto and Masaki was the scene when they were discussing what to do with captured agents.
    • Toshikazu's body is cremated/buried by Yakumo. He said this to his disciple 「弔ってあげなさい]. (the exact translation of "tomurau" is memorial service, or mourning. Maybe it can be interpreted as buried or cremated)


    Chapter 4

    • Tatsuya was coming back together with Yakumo. Since he didn't have his bike anymore, he had to came back together with Yakumo.
    • He then complained to Yakumo why Yakumo stopped him. Yakumo asked back why Tatsuya lightly wanted to that. Tatsuya seemed in bad mood with word lightly and explained to Yakumo that he and magicians in general needed capture Gu Jie. Yakumo then said "and you want to cancel Canopus' magic?" Tatsuya surprised with 2 points from Yakumo's question. 1st was he surprised why such a high Numbers doing with that mission. 2nd how Yakumo knew it was Canopus. Yakumo continued if Tatsuya did that, the USNA would identify him as a target that needed to be disposed and sent assassins to him. In that he would expose any danger to Miyuki. Tatsuya then couldn't refute back.
    • In the home, he explained to Miyuki, and Kuroba twins that the mission failed. He felt down about it but Miyuki encouraged him that his safety was her priority.
    • Later before going to sleep, Ayako talked to Fumiya and recognized that Tatsuya looked better after Miyuki's encouragement.
    • At the next morning, Tatsuya, Yakumo and his disciples, and Masaki went to Chiba house to give Toshikazu's body. They came to explain the situation and to give their condolences, not for asking forgiveness.
    • The family member available were Jouichirou (Head of Chiba), Sanae (Toshikazu's sister from same mother), and Erika. Naotsugu wasn't there. Sanae was crying. Other were in mourning attire only Erika wore her school uniform. Yakumo then explained everything from the start to Tatsuya gave Toshikazu a vital blow. After that, Erika asked Tatsuya to follow her to dojo. She asked about whether Toshikazu was strong when fighting Tatsuya (Erika still said "baka-aniki"). Tatsuya confirmed it. She then asked about Gu Jie, Tatsuya explained back everything.
    • Shen then asked to Tatsuya for duel. Just after she raise one of her feet from seiza position, Tatsuya immediately kicked her to the wall. She picked near wooden sword near the wall, attacked Tatsuya (but lacked her usual sharpness). Tatsuya grabbed wooden sword with his hand and throw it together with Erika. Erika admitted defeat and then crying. Erika complained that to Tatsuya, that he so brutal after crying.
    • After that, he was coming back together with Yakumo. Yakumo asked what would he do after this. He said he would go back to home and report to Maya. Tatsuya said he would be scolded but Yakumo had different opinion. Yakumo didn't explained to Tatsuya that Aoba's request actually was "Observe and prevent Shiba Tatsuya from doing excessive".
    • After that, Tatsuya, together with Miyuki and Kuroba twin went to Magic Association in Kyoto. Because Maya was there so he would report to Maya directly.
    • Maya then questioned Tatsuya on how Tatsuya tracked Gu Jie. Tatsuya explained he developed new magic. But why takes so long? Maya doubted it. Tatsuya answered because he need fulfill certain condition. Maya tried to asked it but Tatsuya hesitated to answer. (Of course he couldn't say, "it's the magic that can't be used unless he embraces Miyuki") so he answered the condition was perceptive-wise so he couldn't explained it well. Maya then somehow understood it after seeing Miyuki's red face and somehow smiled amusingly.
    • There he explained too about life-force as source of magic which gave a new idea to Maya of new realm of experiment.


    Chapter 5

    • Tatsuya reported the whole mission and its result to Kazama. He then added that it was fatal for military to have another country operative agents to do what they like in the country. Kazama asked back whether it's opinion of a 10MC member? Tatsuya said it's personal opinion. After Tatsuya went out of the room, Kazama admitted that if military were to help, Gu Jie would be captured successfully without any sacrificing two excellent detectives. However he didn't feel any guilt because that was his mission.
    • Kyouko was tasked to convert the voice-recorded report to written report however she didn't felt like to type any word after hearing the report. She thought of it and regretted about it. However she didn't feel any romantic feeling toward Toshikazu, nor feel any lost. At most she just felt the lose of good coworker. The whole deal was the result of Toshikazu's carelessness. Toshikazu should have already info that Oumi was descendant of Daahan refugees but failed to use that info as a warning. After that thought, she then continue to work on her task.


    For Masaki's diary, it was actually his daily impression about his life in Tokyo.

    • He was living in home in Tokyo. His father bought it about 10 years ago.
    • At first day, he got info that Shizuku was Informal Public Moral Committee President (影の風委員長)
    • Masaki surprised to find out Tatsuya was a 2nd course student. In 3rd High, equal term for "weed" was "normal" student. He felt the gap was too much between him and Tatsuya. He was wondering what education Tatsuya did in Yotsuba.
    • Public Moral Committee had better social student standing than Student Council in 3rd High. The most excellent new student was scouted to Public Moral Committee instead of Student Council.
    • After the mission ended, he intended to come back immediately (it was only about 1 week after moving to Tokyo) but his father said Masaki should finish it as planned (so Masaki had to spent two weeks more in 1st High).
    • His father informed him that Akane would visit him and ordered Masaki to bring her to tourist spot.
    • He conflicted to whom he would ask for advice. He afraid to disturb Miyuki, he didn't want to have any debt to Tatsuya, he doubt whether Yoshida and Saijou knew the tourist spots that makes middle school girl happy. In the end he asked to Mayumi which he regretted later.
    • He got the info but in exchange of mental exhaustion after going back from Saegusa's mansion.
    • Akane came together with Kichijouji which makes him really happy.
    • Akane asked to meet Miyuki, but with condition that Tatsuya was able to go together.
    • After meeting with Miyuki, he asked Akane on how her impression. She said she was scared with Tatsuya. No reason but she was scared. She only said to him to be careful.
    • The last week, 2 days before going back, he was to brave himself to invite Miyuki to movie theater. Tatsuya asked is it to date? Masaki confimed it. But Tatsuya allowed with condition, to bring Minami together.
    • The movie he chose was romantic-love story. The story took place in 1990, the love story between esper girl and normal guy.
    • After movie, he and Miyuki found Tatsuya just outside the theater. Not only Tatsuya, but all usual member of Tatsuya's gang in school cafetaria + Saegusa twin.
    • He retorted why everyone here, only Mizuki and Honoka cowered but all other members were it with casual face. Erika said they came to fetch Miyuki. Didn't the permission only given to watch the movie?
    • He was dumbfounded with that and made a conclusion that even Tatsuya's friend really as bad as Tatsuya.
    • He didn't say which time he would go back but Miyuki came to the station. He asked whether she came alone but Miyuki just looked to back and he found Tatsuya was standing with his back leaned on the wall.
    • He made decision that he would choose the same Magic Univ as Miyuki and together with her to embark a campus-life. Masaki said everyone chose Magic University. Masaki thought that Saijou would choose Magic Military Academy but he chose to be Mobile Police Officer.
    • In bowling scene, it was the first time Masaki to play bowling. No magic allowed. Masaki and Miyuki were suck at it. Tatsuya, Leo, Erika and Yoshida all of them were good players.
    • In karaoke, Masaki was better singer than Tatsuya, so Masaki felt good about it.


    • The seventh post (Answer to question):
    • First, once Tatsuya put psion marker on Gu Jie, does it work similar to Nakura's blood in Zhou during Kyoto Arc?
    • Yes, it was explained that the idea same as Nakura's blood. But because Tatsuya couldn't just simply send his blood so he sent some distinctive lump of psion and put it in Gu Jie's Eidos. Gu Jie didn't notice that. In chapter 13, Gu Jie was adept at controlling life-force which make Tatsuya really angry to him. So I think it was safe to say Eidos didn't related to life-force.(Eidos was written like this right? 体情報, literally it means object information)
    • Second, did Gu Jie realizes that he was marked later in the volume?
    • Yakumo didn't touch that subject, although Yakumo said with disgust even he didn't want to be involved any worldly matter, he just couldn't do that easily.


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    • Here's what I just found in Chapter 13; some interesting information about the younger Saegusa brother, Saegusa Koujirou (七草 孝次郎) along with some more information about Saegusa Tomokazu.
    • We already know that Koujirou lives and works at the Seventh Research Institute owned by the Saegusa Family. Another thing, Koujirou is three years younger than Tomokazu who is turning 27. What may interest everyone is that Koujirou is more powerful than both Tomokazu and Mayumi, but is less dexterous than Tomokazu.
    • Now on to more about Tomokazu. He happens to look very similar to Kouichi, although obviously without the sunglasses. Good thing is that even though he has a serious personality, its no where near being as bad as Kouichi's. The last thing is, he cares for Mayumi and his sisters unlike their father.


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    • Gu Jie thinks, Chiba Toshikazu has potential that he has never seen for a human material.
    • Gu Jie needs one more day to make Toshikazu as a generator, but after he sensed somebody(Tatsuya) was tracking magic of Oumi Kazkyo, he decides to move out of Oumi Kazkyo's house. (Of course, Oumi Kazkyo was killed by Gu Jie while Tatsuya was tracking him. When the scene changes from Tatsuya to Gu Jie, Oumi Kazkyo was already dead, so he never made an actual entrance in the novel. )
    • Toshikazu is not a generator but a soldier prepared to die (死兵). Seems like, a generator can be used longer.
    • Gu Jie has a dagger with complicated decorations. He killed Oumi Kazkyo with it. After he decides to give up turning Chiba Toshikazu into a generator, Gu Jie heads to the room where Toshikazu and Inagaki were laying down with this dagger.
    • After Momosaki (head master) and Yaosaka (vice head master) heard the story from Izumi, and Momosaki assumed, humanist attacks are no longer targeting students randomly since they noticed Izumi as a daughter of Saegusa and Miyuki's student president. Momosaki suspended the school until 23rd (saturday).
    • Mayumi was the one who suggested placing protection details (bodyguards) on Miyuki. The idea was rejected because regardless of Mayumi's honest intention, bodyguards would be chosen and sent by Saegusa Koichi. Later, the idea of placing Saegusa clan's protection details was completely abandoned because this idea of using Miyuki as a bait was based on the assumption that Miyuki was targeted because she is a heir of Yotsuba, but Miyuki proved, she was targeted because she is the student president while Izumi was being targeted because of her family background. So, Katsuto asked about Mayumi's safety. At the end, the discussion ends with Mayumi trying to explain that she is safe and does not need additional protection.
    • In the meeting, it was not directly mentioned who came up with the idea of using Miyuki as a bait.


    From Illustration number 2, From Right to Left;

    • Gu Jie: "We didn't lose them. What are you planning now?" [Also known as Jiedo Heigu. A magician who swore to revenge on Japanese magic society. A survivor from Dahan's military occultists and Kunlunfang Institute]
    • Jo Du: "Heigu Daren(sir), You shouldn't worry" [A man who is planning to help Gu Jie to escape Japan. He is a meticulous man who plans thoroughly with various ways to escape.]
    • Ichijou Masaki: "I will leave it to you" [He is 2nd year student from 3rd high school, but he is studying at 1st high school. The heir of Ichijou clan. Requested a formal engagement to Miyuki]
    • Juumonji Katsuto: "Ichijou, follow Gu Jie" [A formal leader of the Club Management Group. Currently enrolled in Magic University. He is the leader of Juumonji Clan, which is one of Ten Master Clans. According to Tatsuya, he is a man like a huge rock]
    • Shiba Tatsuya: "Leave it to me. And, go." [A older brother of Shiba siblings. He belongs to 2nd year engineer class at the first high school. "Secretarial Chief" Secretary. He does not care anything except Miyuki who he recognizes as something to protect as a "guardian".]


    • Saegusa clan suffering from a bad image after the 10 MC meeting in 17 and Koichi's plots being exposed.
    • Humanist who attacked Miyuki and the group was under the control. (The name of magician who controlled them may be Oumi Kazkyo. I am not sure about his name because I can only got "Oumi".)
    • Tatsuya detected the magician (Oumi Kazukyo?) who controlled Humanist group, but Gu jie realized somebody detected the location of the magician, so Gu jie killed the magician who controlled Humanist group.
    • Juumonji, Ichijou, Yakumo, Saegusa, and police are hunting the culprit along with Tatsuya. Chiba Toshikazu has turned into puppet [傀儡], so Tatsuya has no other choice but killing him. Inagaki was killed by Rupture by Masaki.
    • USNA Canopus has been interfering Tatsuya. At the end, he kills Gu Jie with his powerful magic: one slash(一閃; this term is normally used as one single sword blow) of Molecular Divider from a device. Tatsuya can annul/cancel Canopus's magic, but Yakumo stops Tatsuya and says people cannot know Tatsuya can annul/cancel USNA #2's magic. As a result, the mission fails.
    • Erika hears the fate of her brother and asks Tatsuya to a dual in the way of revenge (because of her anger). At the end, she cries at Tatsuya shoulder. Fujibayashi Kyouko also gets influenced by the death of Toshikazu.


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    • Owner of 4th lab shows up
    • His left eye is white color. It is hard to say, his look is handsome but he has graceful look. His name is Todo Aoba, 東道 青波(とうどう あおば). Yakumo calls him, Aoba Nyûdô Kakka (青波入道閣下).
    • [閣下: your Excellency, it is term of respect that has been used on military generals such as Kudou Retsu and Saeki Hiromi in Mahouka.] He is a previous owner of 4th institute and a sponsor for Yotsuba, and he also sponsors other political figures.
    • Added name in both English and Japanese, but it needs to be checked.**入道閣下 is a little tricky; 入道 has two meanings: 1. a person who becomes a Buddhist monk. 2. a person who shaves head and wears cloth similar to a monk. And, this is the first time for me to read this phrase, "入道閣下".***入道, Nyûdô is the title that is being used to a general who becomes a monk. The best example is 武田晴信入道信玄 (Takeda Harunobu Nyûdô Shingen), it is the name that Takeda Harunobu used after he shaved his head and gained the status of monk while governing his land.


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    • The next volume would be a collection of SS previously published in Dengeki magazine as well as new SS then volume 21 will be the new arc were Tatsuya and the others will be in their Third year(I guess another round of Nine School Competition and Thesis Competition)unless things break out seriously thus cancelling those events. Satou sensei said that the next enemy will be someone who was on Tatsuya's side who was helping them but this time they will be against each other.


    Spoilers on Masaki's diary "My angel" from anon @2ch and /a

    • Morisaki will be in this part.
    • Masaki learns Tatsuya was Course 2 student.
    • According to another anon, Akane was scared of Tatsuya. He did not share why she was scared of Tatsuya.
    • Tatsuya, Miyuki, Masaki and Akane met together in the form of formal meeting. Akane was the one who brought up Mayumi name at the dinner. Or that the purpose of the dinner was to discuss being clan head because Akane was questioning it.
    • It's actually about all the characters and the aftermath of Gu Jie events. It's just Masaki's thoughts on everyone at 1st high, Tatsuya is the one mentioned the most. In it we learn that after some time Erika was able to smile again. That is why Miyuki is happy to see Erika. Masaki and Miyuki saw a movie. The group also went out together.
    • The diary foreshadows that Tatsuya and Masaki will be attending university together. Apparently Tatsuya has plans to attend and access their resources for more research plans he's interested in pursuing. It doesn't say whether it's Defense College or Magic University. Also nothing about Miyuki.
    • Masaki was in the middle of the Juumonji-Saegusa plans. There is some level of mistrust towards the Yotsuba from them but Masaki doesn't share their views. He is more comfortable working with Tatsuya. Whatever thoughts he had about the Yotsuba have been changed by Tatsuya and Miyuki. In the event of taking sides he takes the side of Tatsuya and Miyuki not Juumonji or Saegusa. One good example is them wanting to use Miyuki as bait. It really enraged Masaki and we see him worked up about in the illustration. It pissed off Juumonji but he let it go because he should have known that when it comes to Miyuki Masaki cannot remain neutral.
    • George is already assuming the role of taking care of Akane and the family. They visit Masaki at his house in Tokyo while he's at 1st high. It seemed like this would turn into a regular occurrence. George will likely remain in Kanazawa, Akane will enter high school and George will probably continue his work at the research institute down there. George misses Masaki and Akane is in denial about it.
    • He's kind of accepted that Tatsuya and Miyuki come as a pair. He didn't give up Miyuki, he's just used to Miyuki and Tatsuya always being around together. Tatsuya acts like her bodyguard. He has made progress in his relationship with both of them and knows more about them. It's slow but steady. It seems like either Masaki will accept Tatsuya x Miyuki and remain friends or it will progress to Masaki x Miyuki x Tatsuya.
    • Masaki and Miyuki saw a movie together. That movie Miyuki want to see but Tatsuya not interested. When Masaki and Miyuki saw a movie together Tatsuya gave them their space.
    • Tatsuya suck at singing although Honoka loved it anyway. Tatsuya sings without embarrassment egged on by Leo. It is pretty much like the fanart. Tatsuya is a master at bowling, it should come as no surprise. Tatsuya got a strike on the first try.


    Volume 19 Masaki POV

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    Spoiler for Vol.19 Spoiler

    • Toudou Aoba calls Yakumo as a reincarnation of Kasin Koji(果心居士). According to Aoba, Yakumo has a Genjutsu / illusion technique that made the world to call him as second coming(reincarnation) of Kasin. And, When Yakumo says, he is nobody, Aoba replies, if Yakumo is nobody and powerless(weak), there isn't any sorcerer (magician) who can be labeled as powerful.
    • Yakumo calls Yotsuba as Aoba's subordinates, but Aoba corrects Yakumo and says, Yotsuba is no longer his subordinates, and he claims, he is just a Sponsor. But, Yakumo also knows, Aoba is not just a sponsor to Yotsuba. And, Yakumo also knows, Yotsuba is not only one that Aoba is sponsoring.
    • Yakumo initially rejects Aoba's request by using Hieizan and its rule that forbids its members(monks) to interfere with the real world. But, Aoba already got the permission from Hieizan. As a result, Yakumo loses any excuse to reject the Aoba's request. However, Yakumo still says, he will make a decision based on Aoba's request. The author also points out Yakumo is only one who can reply Aoba's request in this way because even Kudou Retsu cannot reject any request from Aoba.
    • When Yakumo asked Aoba whether Aoba is a supporter of Tatsuya, Aoba answered by saying, He may be a product (a (peace of) work, (作品)), which was acquired coincidentally(unexpectedly), but he is still one research subject. He has to be useful in the future as well. When Aoba says useful, it means being useful as a guinea pig to provide more data. After hearing Aoba's words, Yakumo feels sympathetic towards Tatsuya because Aoba's influence is wide, and Yakumo assumes it will be very hard even for Tatsuya to get away from Aoba's influence (hand).
    • According to narrator (the author), Aoba does not concern 10 MC's current circumstance, and Aoba may be much better off if 10MC gets cornered.
    • Aoba wants to pay Yakumo for his service. He offered 10 cushions: Cushion is a form of secret language (隱語) during the era where people used paper currency. One cushion is 100 Million Yen (USD 896,379) and ten cushion is 1 Billion Yen (USD 8,963,785). Yakumo rejects the offer, but Aoba says that there is nothing more expensive than free. Aoba tells Yakumo that he will choose a suitable statue of Buddha, which will be made of pure gold.


    Spoiler for Personal interpretation and information:

    • Toudou Aoba recognized Yakumo as one of the most powerful magicians.
    • It may be just my personal interpretation, but I think, Aoba may be sponsoring few more families among 10MC and 18 assistant families or magician related factions such as Hieizan or even military division similar to 101 battalion.
    • It is very hard to say whether Yakumo can reject Aoba because of his character, or he has some hidden power or influence compared to Retsu. Personally, I think, it is due to Yakumo's character, but we can also expect additional information regarding Yakumo such as his position in Hieizan or among old traditional magicians.
    • For now, Aoba may be sponsoring Tatsuya indirectly because of his own interest. Seems like, Aoba and Tatsuya will make the first meeting in the near future.
    • In Kyoto Arc, the author used two key words as foreshadowing for Yotsuba Inheritance Arc. He used the word, "作品" (A piece of work ; product) for Kudou Minoru and used "名作"(Master piece; a fine piece) for Miyuki. It was a forshadowing that Miyuki is a genetically altered magician just like Minoru but a perfect one. In vol.19, I think, the author used "作品" (A piece of work) in order to indicate that Aoba knows, Tatsuya was altered by Miya. Simply, it may also indicate Aoba knows everything about Tatsuya and Yotsuba in general.
    • In addition, "coincidentally" can also be another foreshadowing for the future arc. He may only mean, Tatsuya's decomposition and regrowth magic. Or, it may be elemental sight, which was not created artificially. (So far, no one claimed, they are responsible for his elemental sight.) Personally, I am betting, it is his elemental sight mainly because Toudou Aoba also seems to have a special eye.
    • We may need more information why Aoba would be better off if 10MC gets cornered. Maybe, Aoba may sustain or strengthen his influence over Yotsuba and the rest of 10MC if 10MC's situation does not get improved and needs helps from higher power such as Aoba.


    Spoiler for Information on Kasin Koji(果心居士)

    • Kasin Koji(果心居士): Kasin is a legendary illusionist / Genjutsu master(幻術使い). There are many stories of Kasin with very famous historic figures from Sengoku Period.
    • Matsunaga Hisahide: Matsunaga had an ambition to use Kasin and his ability. Matsunaga invited and requested Kasin to perform an illusion. When Kasin performed illusion, everything became dark in front of Matsunaga. Suddenly, a woman appeared in the hallway and opened the door. And, she came next to Matsunaga and said, "Tonight, do not go to another woman" with very thin and scary voice. The woman was Matsunaga's first wife who was already dead. Matsunaga yelled and asked Kasin to stop the illusion.
    • Oda Nobunaga: Nobunaga heard about the painting that Kasin drew. It was a depiction of hell and showed how horrifying hell is. Nobunaga requested Kasin to hand over the drawing to him, but it was rejected. So, Nobunaga dispatched his men to take the painting with the force. When Nobunaga got the painting scroll and opened it. There was nothing on the scroll.
    • Akechi Mitsuhide: After killing his boss, Oda Nobunaga, Mitsuhide threw the party for his men and allies and invited Kasin to perform an illusion. In the room, there was a a folding screen [屛風] with a painting of river and a boat. When Kasin used his sorcery, he went into the painting and was on the boat. Then, suddenly (river) water came out of the painting. The place was suddenly flooded. And, in this chaos Kasin banished while riding the boat. After Kasin banished, the place turned back to normal. On the way out of Mitsuhide's territory, Kasin met Tsutsui Junkei who was heading to Mistuhide in order to join his force. Kasin told Junkei to go back and warned Junkei that Mitsuhide will not last. Junkei took Kasin's advice and went back home. Just like Kasin's prediction, Mitsuhide lost the battle and was killed by peasants.
    • Toyotomi Hideyoshi: Hideoyoshi also invited and ordered Kasin to perform an illusion. Similar to Matsunaga's story, the room turned dark, and a woman appeared. A woman was a victim who was raped and killed by Hideyoshi. The woman blamed Hideyoshi. Hideyoshi became furious and ordered his men to execute Kasin. Right before the execution, Kasin became a mouse and rode a black kite (Milvus migrans), and he flew out of the Hideyoshi's place.
    • Tokugawa Ieyasu: Kasin often showed up at Ieyasu's place and had friendly chats with him.

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    • Psion cloud to cushion the effects of cast jamming? That's a new counter to CJ.

      Maybe she can do it because of her high psion count.

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    • its no counter only down effects CJ

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    • ^

      Yeah,it tones down the effects of CJ,so not exactly a counter.But it is innovative,sort of like the Tomitsuka's psion armour.

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    • i think author try show tatsuya is not a god as people say...he can always stop little by little for someone

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    • I liked that last part "Tatsuya played with humanist and took out 5 people in three seconds". lml

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    • My prediction for this series overall is that it'll obviously take on a similar route as the first xmen cinematic trilogy where mutants are persecuted (in this case magicians). However, I think that Tatsuya's abilities will somehow be revealed to the public and further fuel the "fear" of magicians within Japan. His own homeland will turn against him, until something happens and then they realize that they need Tatsuya more than ever. Then Satou will either go for a happy ending or have tatsuya/miyuki sacrificed for a feel-good bitter/sorrow ending. Heck, I wouldn't even rule out a suicide like in romeo & juliet.

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    • Basically there is no mention about Isumi at all throughout the brawl? She just stood there as a background without voicing anything? Considering her personality, she should at least attempt doing something.

      In animesuki, it was mentioned that at the time Tatsuya playing with Humanist, Miyuki, Izumi, Minami were already in school.The reason that Tat forced Miyuki's group to go back before the fight end because he doesn't want to reveal much about his abilities to Isumi?

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    • @Elymanthos

      No, she immediately held back by Miyuki. Although she did smirk toward Humanist who surprised when their antinites didn't affect much Miyuki cs anymore.

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    • @Elymanthos

      Izumi and Minami are in the same power bracket , i would rate Minami higher than Izumi due to her combat experience during the training as Yotsuba guardian,so ,if Minami was unable to do anything ,it's not surprising that Izumi was powerless as well.


                 Did Miyuki use the spirit magic to disable (make them lose their will) humanists?

      If she did , i'm betting that is the first usage of Luna Strike in the LN.

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    • I would say that Minami is stronger than Izumi as well. Because everyone knows the Saegusa twins powers are at their highest when they are working in tandem. 

      The reason I would assume Tatsuya would send them back is becuase: A. he never wants to put Miyuki in harms way or in a potential negative spotlight. B. Izumi doesn't know his full capabities. Remember half of his abilities are considered top secret, so he can't fully release his strength with witnesses around if he can avoid it.

      Also, while it may be ok to use magic to defend themselves from civilians (muggles), it would be a disaster if they used magic to fight back. Tatsuya pretty much doesn't care about getting introuble himself, but the biggest thing is he can use his physical abilities to disable most of them. So if the magicians defense magic is being eroded by Cast Jamming their only option would be to use offensive magic or runaway (if the magicans lack physical prowess).  Most likely, the humanists want the outcome of offensive magic being used because even if they are hurt, pubiclly and politically they would still win the match and further their agenda against magicians. 

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    • Getting curb stomped by a highschool student is definitely not part of thier agenda.

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    • 107.197.20.197 wrote:
      Getting curb stomped by a highschool student is definitely not part of thier agenda.

      Not true. If they win the fight. They can spread the word that magicians can be taken down using Cast Jamming.  If they lose, which is most likely the outcome, if they have injuries or death by means of magic then they can use the media's publicity to go from aggressors to victims.

      It's similar to how in the States just a year ago, any injury or death caused to a civilian by a police officer (no matter whether the perpetrator broke the law, resisted arrest or had warrants out for their arrest) was front page news about how police had too much unrestricted power and were abusing it. 

      Side note: I am not saying that all those incidents were blown out of proportion. Nor am I saying that there aren't incidents with corrupt law enforcement and or politicians. Just that media can be biased to a particular agenda for higher viewer ratings and political agendas. 

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    • Miyuki could have froze them, it was self defense. Sh did it in volume 14 or is it that she was unable to because the Cast Jamming was too strong? It says she could only reduce the effects.

      Bluestrider25 wrote: I would say that Minami is stronger than Izumi as well. Because everyone knows the Saegusa twins powers are at their highest when they are working in tandem. 

      The reason I would assume Tatsuya would send them back is becuase: A. he never wants to put Miyuki in harms way or in a potential negative spotlight. B. Izumi doesn't know his full capabities. Remember half of his abilities are considered top secret, so he can't fully release his strength with witnesses around if he can avoid it.

      Also, while it may be ok to use magic to defend themselves from civilians (muggles), it would be a disaster if they used magic to fight back. Tatsuya pretty much doesn't care about getting introuble himself, but the biggest thing is he can use his physical abilities to disable most of them. So if the magicians defense magic is being eroded by Cast Jamming their only option would be to use offensive magic or runaway (if the magicans lack physical prowess).  Most likely, the humanists want the outcome of offensive magic being used because even if they are hurt, pubiclly and politically they would still win the match and further their agenda against magicians. 

      Minami is stronger but the twins are not limited to a tandem, they are strong by themselves as well. In tandem they are much better because their special characteristics double the power of their attacks.

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    • ^

      It won't matter if it was self defense if the humanists are able to bring media coverage to it. Magicans overall are a small percentage of the population.  Meaning that most people aren't magicians and may be persuaded to become humanists sympathizers out of fear of magical powers.  

      Just like from my example about law enforcement.  Most Americans in the US are not affiliated with the police, so if they hear a story about police brutality they will tend to agree with the "victims" if the media's coverage is biased and not focusing on all the facts.

      Wasn't implying that Izumi was weak, just that with Minami's training she is most likely stronger and more proficient than either of the twins when they are by themselves. Together, the Twins, are able to use much stronger magic and seem to compliment the others abilities.

      Although, Minami was considered 4th during the initial exams, from the dialogue of Tatsuya and Miyuki, it seems to be implied she held back in order not to emphasize the strength of her true abilities. Most Yotsuba magicans are restricted from using their full abilities to disuade any connection to the clan. It's only an exception with Miyuki and for some reason the Kuroba Twins recently. 

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    • @OneSingularity

      Tatsuya disable spirit magic using gram demolition. Miyuki didn't do anything.

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    • It sounds like someone used spirit magic to make them fight. But was it Gu Jie or someone working for Kouichi?

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    • Thanks Macho for the info about Isumi's smirk, quite amusing imo. It seems that she doesn't have any crisis perception. Instead of figuring out how to deal with her dire situation, she became obsessed with her goddess's action.

      Also, how did it become power comparison b/n 2 maidens? i merely asked whether there were any actions worth considering from Isumi. Btw, had Miyuki and her Kouhais stayed at the scene until the end or parting after Tat's intervention?

      May i also confirm whether Tat used any other magics apart from Gram Demolition. If so he might drive Isumi back because he wanted to hide his secrets.

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    • The 'spirit magic' used to make them fight, was it controlling their bodies or their minds? Can someone confirm?

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    • tatsuya you sly dog. i knew you could do it

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    • looks like there is going to be an annoncement made during the vol 19 release.

      https://twitter.com/dengeki_mahouka

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    • maybe an S2 anime hopefully. there are enough volumes for it.

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    • Credit TA

      • After the humanist leader lost consciousness, he stood up again while raising both of his arms forward. On his hands, there are spiritual beings (SB), which is also called as element. But, it has an ominous purple flame, so Tatsuya thinks, "evil spirit"(邪靈) may be better name than "element".
      • The humanist leader had two weapons: Stun Whip and a handgun. A handgun is illegal, and a stun whip can only be gotten from a police or a supplier who supplies weapons to police force.
      • Once, Tatsuya has a visual contact with a person, Tatsuya can track him or her. But, if Tatsuya uses this power, Tatsuya has to stop monitoring Miyuki and concentrate on Gu Jie. Tatsuya thinks, Gu Jie is not worth enough for Tatsuya to stop watching over Miyuki.
      • Tatsuya can look into past for 24 hours prior to the present time (the time when he uses his eye to look into the past.)
      • Tatsuya cannot foresee the future. In this event, Tatsuya had a gut feeling that Miyuki may be in danger, and he was right.
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    • Macho44 wrote:
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      @ Macho & those who have provided these spoilers -- Thanks!!

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    • Erika fight with Tatsuya for revenge.....

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    • 1/3 rd of the story for Masaki and Miyuki romance...?

      Masaki chasing Miyuki when things are so serious is kind of odd.

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    • ^Exactly, i thought the same. Why the hell he still kept chasing woman when his 1st priority was chasing a dangerous villain who almost caused his father death.

      Btw, wtf about diary not to mention "my angel" please are u a gradeschooler? sigh....Masaki u failed me.

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    • I feel sympathy toward Itagaki, no one seems to care about his existence. Come on ppl, give him condolence.

      Anyway, from the spoilers so far can i assume that there were no actions contributed from Miki, Erika and Leo? At least this volume doesn't seem to have too much high school love drama.

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    • OneSingularity wrote:
      1/3 rd of the story for Masaki and Miyuki romance...?

      Masaki chasing Miyuki when things are so serious is kind of odd.

      That's not what happens. There is a SS about hi after the volume ends. He is not pursuing Miyuki but working with Tatsuya and Juumonji instead.

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    • first I want to apologize for something poorly written English as it is Portuguese and my English is not the best.

      I read this all pages about the history and I have some questions...

      - After all the tatsuya and miyuki are cousins ​​? 

      - Go to marriages arranged between them? But he does not see her as a normal woman , just like her sister . 

      - I read that after Mayumi like tatsuya but walks in denial ? but then I read that will have attitudes in the last chapters that show you want something with himself to marry. 

      - Finally I saw that it is accepted by Yotsuba but then there is a revolt against him, but did not understand the translation I did if by "normal " humans is by people of other 10 clans.

      Those are my questions and if you can help me , I'm grateful

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    • Does anybody find volume 19  illustration

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    • NatsuDrag wrote:
      first I want to apologize for something poorly written English as it is Portuguese and my English is not the best.

      I read this all pages about the history and I have some questions...

      - After all the tatsuya and miyuki are cousins ​​? 

      - Go to marriages arranged between them? But he does not see her as a normal woman , just like her sister . 

      - I read that after Mayumi like tatsuya but walks in denial ? but then I read that will have attitudes in the last chapters that show you want something with himself to marry. 

      - Finally I saw that it is accepted by Yotsuba but then there is a revolt against him, but did not understand the translation I did if by "normal " humans is by people of other 10 clans.

      Those are my questions and if you can help me , I'm grateful

      i guess you're new here. i can only partially answer your question though. spoiler btw.

      1 - they are born with the same mother but miyuki is genetically engineered so that it can be inferred that they are cousins(vol 16)

      2 - tatsuya has been stripped of his emotion except for brotherly love so that's that.

      3 - i guess vol 14( insurrection) where mari asked mayumi, she denies that claiming that she only sees him as little brother, but not even the readers (lol) and mari buy it

      4 - he was accepted as yotsuba as the son of yotsuba maya and fiance of shiba(yotsuba) miyuki and before that the branch heads planned to delay him because they fear his power. 

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    • 203.111.224.44 escreveu:

      eu acho que você é novo por aqui. i só parcialmente podem responder a sua pergunta embora. o spoiler btw.

      1 - que nascem com a mesma mãe, mas miyuki é geneticamente modificada de modo que pode-se inferir que eles são primos (vol 16)

      2 - tatsuya tem sido despojado de sua emoção, exceto para o amor fraternal de modo que é isso.

      3 - eu acho vol 14 (insurreição), onde mari perguntou Mayumi, ela nega que alegando que ela só vê-lo como irmão, mas nem mesmo os leitores (lol) e mari comprá-lo

      4 - ele foi aceito como yotsuba como o filho de Maya yotsuba e noivo de shiba (yotsuba) miyuki e antes que os chefes de filiais planejado para atrasá-lo porque temem seu poder. 

      Thank you for the explanation. And it's the first time I comment on the blog, because until now only made ​​the record. I went to look for information about mahouka and saw this page and really liked it .

      I saw the anime with great attention before reading the summaries of the remaining volumes.

      I soon realized an episode he says is unique emotions that have brotherly feelings for his sister. So it also be the only person who can take the limiting the powers it has. Therefore,

      - Their marriage situation is just a strategy to be accepted in Yotsuba that Aunt ( Maya Yotsuba ) arranged . Also because from what I read , it accepts the feelings but only sees her as a sister.

      - The question of Mayumi place because it will be the author of the place as the future character that can be couple with him once in the anime taking her sister, she is the one who gets more with him in the hottest situations . And given his feelings for miyuki , are fraternal , has its logic.

      So what I understand , this war to defeat Tatsuya is just the beginning , promises next volumes.

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    • OneSingularity wrote:
      1/3 rd of the story for Masaki and Miyuki romance...?

      Masaki chasing Miyuki when things are so serious is kind of odd.

      odd ? ^^ serious ? recall that Masaki does not seek for woman as said in early volumes. If he started now don't u think is like something important to him ? i think the author just want to show that, maybe, he fell for her. I thought it was obvious by now....

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    • 177.4.14.239 wrote:

      odd ? ^^ serious ? recall that Masaki does not seek for woman as said in early volumes. If he started now don't u think is like something important to him ? i think the author just want to show that, maybe, he fell for her. I thought it was obvious by now....

      I find it odd that he'd chase after a girl when they are in the midst of a dangerous mission.

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    • Gu-Jie looks kind of young in the illustrations , not like an old man as the LN describes.

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    • OneSingularity wrote:
      Gu-Jie looks kind of young in the illustrations , not like an old man as the LN describes.

      I thought that had something to do with the Ancient magic he uses to look young, like that Zhou guy (learned it from Gu-Jie) from chinatown

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    • Akane was the one who brought up Mayumi at the dinner.

      so mayumi also come to dinner or just a subject topic?

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    • Mayumi just a topic subject, she didn't come.. Maybe Akane want to hook Mayumi with Tatsuya, while her brother with Miyuki.

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    • It kinda annoys me to see the author putting Masaki more an more into the spotlight and making his role more important. I just don't like this character and it hurts my reading experience.

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    • look like a movie will adapt vol 19 not vol 8

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    • What the story behind illustration about Masaki, Miyuki and other?

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    • That illustration from Masaki sweet angel diary.. Maybe Masaki dreaming or something.

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    • 36.81.20.18 wrote:
      What the story behind illustration about Masaki, Miyuki and other?

      Second to that pls... Masaki perhaps planned to date with Miyuki alone but the plan went haywire?

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    • ^

      Yeah, probably..

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    • Macho44 wrote:
      That illustration from Masaki sweet angel diary.. Maybe Masaki dreaming or something.

      So, it is just Masaki delusion/imagination? Thanks. with this, it calm My heart. If that really happen, many will get rage (for Miyuki Shipper). it doesn't make sense if that really happen. I don't think that scene will really happen except Miyuki got brainwash.

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    • 36.81.20.18 wrote:
      Macho44 wrote:
      That illustration from Masaki sweet angel diary.. Maybe Masaki dreaming or something.
      So, it is just Masaki delusion/imagination? Thanks. with this, it calm My heart. If that really happen, many will get rage (for Miyuki Shipper). it doesn't make sense if that really happen. I don't think that scene will really happen except Miyuki got brainwash.

      Although that just delusion/imagination, still I don't like it. like how cover in vol 18. why they make that illustration? is it for fan service for masaki shipper?

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    • Why did Masaki get pissed in the meeting with Tatsuya and Miyuki ?

      Come to think of it,i also don't know what 'unexpected' thing he does to get close to Miyuki in vol 18.

      It seems Masaki will be in the spotlight this time.I don't think i need any more of Masaki than what we have already, he's just too annoying.

      My sweet angel diary by Masaki? LOL ,if only Masaki knew the true Miyuki,it would be more like - "The killer ice princess".

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    • Seems like it's a date of Masaki and Miyuki, And Tatsuya watches them from afar, like a father entrust his spoiled daughter to the son-in-law

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    • 1.52.39.114 wrote:
      look like a movie will adapt vol 19 not vol 8

      Then, won't the story feel broken.. Like those who have watched anime would definitely want something for the period inbetween (from Vol.7 to Vol.19) as well and that too before the story of Vol. 19.

      Also, I don't think Vol. 19 is standalone... I wonder how that will be !!!!

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    • ^That "unexpected" thing should be transferring school.

      I couldn't agree more that he have been an annoying character since the begining of this arc. I do not understand why Satou decided to put his idiotic diary in the main story instead of SS, not to mention 1/3 of the book was being dedicated to that. I really do not want to know about his brotherhood with Morisaki or how his little sister plans to match him with Miyuki. Please Satou can u just write something more about the plot or your signature magical jargons which are more interesting.

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    • The focus on Masaki is probably based on the fact, that this is the last hurdle for Miyuki and Tatsuya. It's the last resistance against the engagement and the power from that. With Masaki's disappearance at the end of the second year and with his defeat at the same time, this pair will be acknowledged by all the clans. So of course Masaki needs screentime so that he can be a "big hurdle" so that it feels like a accomplishment when Miyuki rejects him one last time. Not that I like him, but it makes sense, because this Arc is the last chance for this specific theme.

      After that, we'll probably deal with more "side-stories" (Erika? Leo?) and the hate against the magicians/Yotsuba, which will be resolved by Tatsuyas Reactor in the thesis competition. But beside maybe some Honoka drama, the official pairing will be clear...

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    • @A Wikia contributor 119.74.19.127 Thanks, reuploading the images

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    • Mayumi x Tatsuya went smooth this volume too, the spoiler told there are cute scenes between two of them.

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    • Nice Satou, continue to develop Masaki and make him more important. Like that, I'll be sure that my Tatsuya x Mayumi ship will sail.

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    • Elymanthos wrote:
      ^That "unexpected" thing should be transferring school.

      I couldn't agree more that he have been an annoying character since the begining of this arc. I do not understand why Satou decided to put his idiotic diary in the main story instead of SS, not to mention 1/3 of the book was being dedicated to that. I really do not want to know about his brotherhood with Morisaki or how his little sister plans to match him with Miyuki. Please Satou can u just write something more about the plot or your signature magical jargons which are more interesting.

      Another annoying character that seems to have prominence here is Toshikazu. I don't know why the author made Fujibayashi cry at his death. I never thought, Fujibayashi would ever end up with someone like Toshikazu, well unless she lost her mind or in utter and hopeless desperation. And when I read Visitor Arc (and even after a few re-reads I've the same opinion) I felt that Erika really hated Toshikazu (not only disliked but hated) and she would be happy, if he was in pain. (I wonder if I understood it wrong and did not understand the author's POV)
      Maybe I was too harsh on Toshikazu here :D

      But the most annoying character that deserved to really disappear from the story is Gu Jie. 
      And with that kind of irrational logic he used to create trouble all around. He just seems like a bad clown or a lost dog. An antagonist of the type of the Joker from The Dark Knight would be better appreciated by me and consider a worthy opponent of Tatsuya.
      It's like he is trying to give excuses to go against the Yotsuba (and bad ones at that) and do other bad stuff.
      I'm really glad the author killed him.

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    • ^Erika even went to challenge Tatsuya to a duel after Toshikazu was killed,i never thought she was so attached to him.

      Gujie died quick, so i guess he's just small fry,one of the henchmen of the big boss.

      I don't think Tatsuya was particularly sad even if the mission failed , he'd be happy that Gujie is gone and the mission has ended. :P

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    • @Sid92

      Yeah i'm also skeptical about Kyoko's reactions. Her affection towards Toshikazu seems kinda forced. She herself mentioned she was under a lot of pressure from her family in finding spouse, like she is at the ceiling age to get marry for a magician and then Toshi who reminded her of her deceased fiance appeared. Besides, their interactions were too few to create a deep bond that made her show such a strong reaction.

      Did Erika really duel with Tatsuya before crying? Didn't she cry at Tat's shoulder according to spoiler?

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    • Sid92 wrote:

      Another annoying character that seems to have prominence here is Toshikazu. I don't know why the author made Fujibayashi cry at his death. I never thought, Fujibayashi would ever end up with someone like Toshikazu, well unless she lost her mind or in utter and hopeless desperation.
      Maybe I was too harsh on Toshikazu here :D

      Fujibayashi felt guilty because he took her bait for Japanese puppeteer's whereabout.

      I thought Fujibayashi would be able to move on from her deceased fiance but I guessed it wrong :p

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    • @Sid92

      I hope Fujibayashi can move on. Many good guys she can choose after this like Yanagi or Sanada from 101.

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      @Sid92

      I hope Fujibayashi can move on. Many good guys she can choose after this like Yanagi or Sanada from 101.

      Yeah, I do really hope so, or else it'd not show the depth of her character. And I don't like to see her character being very shallow.

      BTW, I don't think she will consider Yanagi or Sanada at all, at this point in the story. First reasn is because, they are probably married because magicians have the (social) responsibility to give birth to new magicians when they are in their prime and so... But this is only a guess. Secondly, the 19th volume got released, and upto the 16th volume at least, there was no mention of their (Sanada or Yanagi) being close to Kyoko at all. And the author had a lot of opportunities to show if there was something. For eg, in Double Seven, when Tatsuya went with Kyoko & Sanada to spy on that stupid kid Shippou, they could have shown if at all they were any close, but it was only a conversation on a professional level.
      And about her guilt, I feel it to be a misplaced guilt. Wasn't Toshikazu a police officer, wasn't he already risking his life everyday on dangerous mission (even in Yokohama Arc he was investigating the invaders from the start).
      Her character could have been shown to be more growing and active after Yokohama and Visitor Arc. Even in NSC, it was mentioned that she felt the closest to Tatsuya as he was more closer in age, and after Minoru was first introduced (in Vol. 14), I was wondering if the author is foreshadowing any possible relationship change with Tatsuya (due to all the similarities between Miyuki and Minoru) after all the part of Steeplechase Event. But it went in a completely different direction soon. :D

      Maybe I'm being too critical on things. Well, I haven't read after Vol. 16 and some part of Vol. 17 (mostly depended on spoilers). Maybe I'll have a clear understanding after I read those volumes.

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    • Look, I think we can all agree that Masaki needs to disappear because he's so annoying.


      Next, I'm sure we can all agree that the best ending for this story (I am not kidding) is that all the girls (Miyuki, Honoka, Fujibayashi, Shizuku, Erika, Ayako) should marry Tatsuya. In a world of magicians, it makes the most sense since he carries extroadinary superpowers and intellect. They all love him (Yes, I believe they do) so why not?


      Everyone would be happy, all the girls would be happy, the magic community would get a hell of a lot stronger with their kids, and Tatsuay would help all people with his reactor. It's a win-win if you ask me.

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    • 130.221.224.7 wrote:
      Look, I think we can all agree that Masaki needs to disappear because he's so annoying.


      Next, I'm sure we can all agree that the best ending for this story (I am not kidding) is that all the girls (Miyuki, Honoka, Fujibayashi, Shizuku, Erika, Ayako) should marry Tatsuya. In a world of magicians, it makes the most sense since he carries extroadinary superpowers and intellect. They all love him (Yes, I believe they do) so why not?


      Everyone would be happy, all the girls would be happy, the magic community would get a hell of a lot stronger with their kids, and Tatsuay would help all people with his reactor. It's a win-win if you ask me.

      You forgot about Mayumi. I agree with you, that Masaki need disappear because he's annoying. I think that some peopple who ship Masaki, it is because they ship another heroine (not miyuki). and with that their ship will sail, but I personally think that for their ship to sail, it doesn't necessarily to sink another ship. I mean, I ship for both Miyuki and Mayumi. so I think that if it is not harem ending, at least don't pair the heroine with another guy. because it is annoying to see ntr. 

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    • 123.22.175.76 wrote:
      Mayumi x Tatsuya went smooth this volume too, the spoiler told there are cute scenes between two of them.


      are there any further details. i read that mayumi was on tatsuyas mind a bit, but so far i havent seen anything specific. did they do much this time?

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    • Erika didn't particulary like her brother, but at the end of the day he is her blood and he didnt mistreat her. She needed the duel sso she could grief most likely... And even if kyoko didnt see him as a couple, she respected him and liked teasing/hanging out with him (looked that way 2 me)

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    • Why should Erika not like him? They have the typical interactions between siblings. She has resentment because he was harsh on her dueing training when they were younger  and tbh it's not such a bad thing but she does like him. She was too attached to Naotsugu however because he spoiled her, and now she's bossing him around. Erika is like a dog.

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    • all hopes to vol 20 now =-|

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    • 130.221.224.7 wrote:
      Look, I think we can all agree that Masaki needs to disappear because he's so annoying.


      Next, I'm sure we can all agree that the best ending for this story (I am not kidding) is that all the girls (Miyuki, Honoka, Fujibayashi, Shizuku, Erika, Ayako) should marry Tatsuya. In a world of magicians, it makes the most sense since he carries extroadinary superpowers and intellect. They all love him (Yes, I believe they do) so why not?


      Everyone would be happy, all the girls would be happy, the magic community would get a hell of a lot stronger with their kids, and Tatsuay would help all people with his reactor. It's a win-win if you ask me.

      Guess you forgot to add Mayumi & Lina in the List above. :D

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    • ^Has polygamy legally been accepted for magicians in Mahouka? I think it is beyond the era where potential magicians were forced to spread their seeds.

      Anyway, just merely imagine it, i got a chill as there would be so much power struggle within the harem.

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    • Well, in the above spoilers - the magic Canopus used is said as Atomic Divider.
      Is that supposed to be Molecular Divider.
      In Visitor Arc it is mentioned that USNA Stars' members have been provided with this magic (probably on a weapon with blade which is also a weaponized CAD).
      Canopus here is also using a weapon with blade.


      Elymanthos wrote:
      ^Has polygamy legally been accepted for magicians in Mahouka? I think it is beyond the era where potential magicians were forced to spread their seeds.

      Anyway, just merely imagine it, i got a chill as there would be so much power struggle within the harem.

      The author already hinted at the possibility when he showed Maya suggesting Katsushige to take Kotona as a mistress & take someone else as legal wife (Vol. 16).

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    • Thanks @sid92.. i changed that.

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    • how much did tatsuya and miyuki get closer? does he still only see her as a sister? 

      also what is the illustration about?  i cant tell if she is embarressed or agitated or even what they are supposed to be doing?

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    • So far only chapter 1 has summarise. That illustration on chapter 2. Probably she embressed because both of them at pool. Many people looking.

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    • That scene is in swimming pool, Tatsuya tried to soothe her, telling her everything will be okay, Miyuki's being nervous after she and her friends got attacked by a humanist group last volume, she was feared that Minami would end up like Honami and it brings back bad memory.

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    • 101.108.4.23 wrote:
      sigh....Masaki u failed me.

      BEST line ever!  Lol

      Welp I personally am a Masaki shipper (unless possible polygamy harem ending).  And by shipper I mean Masaki x Mayumi!  I'd love to see a dinner scene with the two of them and Akane plus the Twins along. Akane + Twins scene would be pretty funny considering the personailities. 


      @Sid92

      I can believe Erika would cry at Toshi's death.  I recently reread Yokohama Disturbance LNs and I remember a scene where he tells her(Erika) that she is a rightful heir of Chiba and deserves to be accepted by them no matter what Naotsugu or their father believe.

      -I think Naotsugu is probably overprotective as hinted by this and his irrittation that Erika trains Leo in the LN. Also that Erika reciprocates the overprotection for Naotsugu.

      -And their father is probably ashamed or feels guilty about her position especially since she has talent and doesn't get along with the eldest daughter.

      With those hints, it can be infered that he was the only one who truly(?) accepted her as successful Chiba family technique successor.  Believing in her abilities to keep herself safe, unlike Naotsugu who babies her, and her father who avoids her.

      (Edit) I believe her dislike/annoyance stems from that he was probably the one who was most rigorous with her. He most likely filled the very strict fatherly role because of their absentee father. 

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    • Nero110 wrote:
      Why should Erika not like him? They have the typical interactions between siblings. She has resentment because he was harsh on her dueing training when they were younger  and tbh it's not such a bad thing but she does like him. She was too attached to Naotsugu however because he spoiled her, and now she's bossing him around. Erika is like a dog.

      If I understand correctly, there is no such relation between Toshikazu and Erika ; also between Erika and her older (half-sister). Toshikazu and his sister did not treat Erika well at all, --- no one in the family did, only Naotsugu was treating her normally (and spoiling her I guess).

      Also, I guess Toshikazu resented the relation between Erika's mother and his father and so he abused Erika during training (maybe to show his dissatisfaction). They both have been mostly cold towards her.

      This is exactly why she trained so hard in the family dojo and got so many disciples and now she is almost second only to her fathers and brothers. She made everyone in the family acknowledge her with her skills, they did not acknowledge her on their own.

      She wasn't even allowed to use the name Chiba by the family until just before entering First High and that is why in Vol. 1 Tatsuya was surprised that the Chiba Family had another daughter and he wasn't aware of it.

      That is why she acted whimsical and distant with everyone. She never cared to make friends, or date anyone. Tatsuya was shown to be her first time that she took interest in someone besides herself, and later on became friends with.

      @ Bluestrider I think most of what you have said is your conjecture, because I don't remember such things. It may also be our personal interpretations of the story.
      There is no mention of her father being absent and Toshikazu filling the role - maybe I don't remember it but can you point it out to me.
      Erika cannot be considered as heir to the family, due to her mother and also she has older brother and a sister still left. What you are saying about Toshikazu's conversation with his father - how I remember it is he was discussing with his father to allow Erika to use Orochimaru for the technique Yamatsunami.
      I don't remember her father being ashamed or feeling guilty about anything related to Erika, so probably again your conjecture I guess.

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    • I don't see how treating her harshly during the training is bad. Toshikazu does like his sister and it's been shown in Yokohama arc, she has a trruly bad relationship with her sister only. If she died I am sure she wouldn't care.

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    • At the end of the day , Erika and Toshikazu are (half) siblings and family,so putting all other petty reasons aside ,they would care about each other's well being.

      btw about the "worst case which should not happen will happen....",we still don't know what this is , do we ?

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    • OneSingularity wrote:
      At the end of the day , Erika and Toshikazu are (half) siblings and family,so putting all other petty reasons aside ,they would care about each other's well being.

      btw about the "worst case which should not happen will happen....",we still don't know what this is , do we ?


      Toshikazu and Inagaki's deaths. This is what enraged Tatsuya.

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    • I don't think grieving for your kin is strange, Erika's reaction is logical regardless how relationship with her brother is. Frankly, i don't care whether Toshi is dead. He is another character whose major role is strenthening Erica's psyche and makes Fujibayashi move on.

      However, i think Satou should be able to render his death more exciting and more dramatic. Here is the scenario, let's Erica take care of Toshikazu while Tatsuya fights off Masaki/Kasuto who is being manipulated. I don't like the facts that Tatsuya's team got an easy victory. Nevermind, Mahouka is always anti-climatic.

      So has it been confirmed that Toshi and his patner been turned into generators?

      @Nero110

      i think the interference of USNA which led to the death of Toshikazu and Itagaki put Tatsuya on edge not Gu Jie himself who is already dead? Now i think Tatsuya has negative emotions/feelings/opinions towards USNA and probably consider using lethal force more easily in the next conflict.

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    • Spoiler about the Saegusa (From Animesuki): Here's what I just found in Chapter 13; some interesting information about the younger Saegusa brother, Saegusa Koujirou (七草 孝次郎) along with some more information about Saegusa Tomokazu. We already know that Koujirou lives and works at the Seventh Research Institute owned by the Saegusa Family. Another thing, Koujirou is three years younger than Tomokazu who is turning 27. What may interest everyone is that Koujirou is more powerful than both Tomokazu and Mayumi, but is less dexterous than Tomokazu. Now on to more about Tomokazu. He happens to look very similar to Kouichi, although obviously without the sunglasses. Good thing is that even though he has a serious personality, its no where near being as bad as Kouichi's. The last thing is, he cares for Mayumi and his sisters unlike their father. I just wanted to let you all know.

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    • ^

      Thanks, Of course Saegusa Tomokazu is strong than Tomokazu, i think the reason is he from Saegusa family maybe he inherit his father power.

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    • 122.49.221.26 wrote:
      Spoiler about the Saegusa (From Animesuki): Here's what I just found in Chapter 13; some interesting information about the younger Saegusa brother, Saegusa Koujirou (七草 孝次郎) along with some more information about Saegusa Tomokazu. We already know that Koujirou lives and works at the Seventh Research Institute owned by the Saegusa Family. Another thing, Koujirou is three years younger than Tomokazu who is turning 27. What may interest everyone is that Koujirou is more powerful than both Tomokazu and Mayumi, but is less dexterous than Tomokazu. Now on to more about Tomokazu. He happens to look very similar to Kouichi, although obviously without the sunglasses. Good thing is that even though he has a serious personality, its no where near being as bad as Kouichi's. The last thing is, he cares for Mayumi and his sisters unlike their father. I just wanted to let you all know.


      what do you mean "unlike their father"? i thought the sisters where close with their dad? or is he just using them as tools or something?

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    • Well, what if something like this happens in the upcoming volumes.

      After the USNA's intervention (a second time since the vampire event), Maya decides to take some measures just for the sake of caution and to prevent something like "Maya's kidnapping by Dahan" incident from repeating again. So she sends a message to Virginia Balance to do something for her. But due to Virginia's position, she still has to follow orders from the USNA Joint Staff Committee or some one like President. And the USNA guys again take Japan for granted & do secret operations in their land. Maya then decides to act to make them obey her, so she sends Tatsuya to destroy the USNA Stars and all the Unregistered SC Magicians of USNA (which are almost 10-15 in no. -- scary). He infiltrates USNA, kills all USNA Stardust members first. Then the USNA reacts, so he turns away from Stars unit and goes to eliminate the SC Magicians one-by-one, to keep his pursuers off his trail. After that he targets the USNA Stars Unit. Meets Lina during his mission, gives her a choice to die or join him and come to Japan (because even if she left the military now, the USNA in future will again make her join the military as she is an important asset and cannot be let her powers be wastes (un-utilized). The plot may then either make her a naturalized citizen of Japan or maybe she will choose death (fighting Tatsuya).

      During the start of his USNA mission, he meets the operator of Hliðskjálf, where he gets information about Hliðskjálf, why he gives the user rights to the 7 selected people (making them sages), how he selects these 7 people, etc.

      Tatsuya in such a case will be on the offensive for the first time since the start of the series, Maya might want to show (REMIND) the world about the Fear & dread of Yotsuba. Take this opportunity to make the USNA to make a stand-off against GAA and New Soviet Union. etc. In such a scenario, Tatsuya would be made to come out of his comfort zone (of not just defending but also attacking).

      Well, just my imagination running wild. Maybe those who read the above will have a good laugh!!! :D ;P

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    • ^But Dahan remnants are no more after Gu Jie was taken down. I mean the big shots not small fries. I sill have no idea how to bring Lina back without creating a great conflict b/n Japan and USNA. Even more so how come Tat's MD hasn't been exposed in v19. It could be in the form of subly hinting that Benjamin partly deciphers Tat's close range bullet catching hands or sth like that.

      At the end, Gu Jie is dead hence there is no conflict of interest b/n Japan and USNA. So where can the conflict be generated from? It doesn't matter that Tat disatisfied with USNA's interference which led to the death of Toshikasu. He won't act merely for retaliation if there is not Miyuki's well being involved.

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    • Yea, so far, Tatsuya has only been reactive. He's never gone after anyone who hasn't attempted harm towards Miyuki, with the exception of orders from Maya to hunt Zhou Gongin.  But even then, one could argue several of the incidents he helped instigate brought danger to Miyuki. So I doubt he's going to go after the Stars. 


      @Sid92

      Erika and Toshi's whole conversation in that arc was basically filled with sarcasm. I wouldn't exactly say their relationship was anywhere near hate. From the translations I have:

      "In a corner of the plaza before the station, the Chiba siblings were putting on a not-quite-warm reunion (?) act. (The older brother was quite happy, so maybe a reunion was not incorrect.)" 

      - "Chiba Toshikazu was one of two people that Erika would never surrender to. Not only was this something Toshikazu approved of, this was also something his sister always aimed for since her childhood."

      - "For Toshikazu, "Little Erika" was the cute little sister whom anyone wanted to tease. Now, she was standing much stronger and cuter than before."

      - "No matter what our father or Naotsugu think, Erika, you are a true daughter of the Chiba Family." - Toshikazu says to Erika

              -    LN volume 7

      Seems like, he was proud of his "Little Erika" and repected her. You're right about my conjecture of their father, but even Naotsugu isn't a fan of his and, IMO, speaks volumes.

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    • The illustration pic which Tatsuya embracing Miyuki was at experiment room in underground below their house. Not at pool.

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    • ^

      Thanks, forget to change

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    • Thanks,that was fairly quick.

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    • To be frank. i'm kind of tired of hiding true ability plot of Tatsuya. I expected to see him trashing his opponent in this volume easily in front of every powerhouses in the story especially Masaki. I don't understand why still bother hiding his abilities when we are closing to the end of story. I wish to see ppl looking at Tatsuya with awe, worship and even extreme fear.

      There are a lot of letdown fights in this volume where after being spoiled i do not even want to reread for the details when it is translated. Normally i would happily reread each volume many times in clound nine but this arc or to be precise since 18 i lost the drive to follow the story. Not to mention the incompetence of Gue Jie, his student, Zhou Gong Jin, caused more havocs than himself in terms of both casualty and the difficulty to take down. Zhou's deeds ranged from Yokohama invasion, conspiracy with Saegusa/Kudos, causing insurrection by manipulating traditionalist and finally took his own life, such a great antagonist.  On the other hand, without USNA interference, Gu Jie would be lying dead since last volume and in fact he did not inflict any significant damage to japanese magical community. I don't even need to point out that Yotsuba suffered none or very little.

      I'm sorry for blabblerring but let's me vent a little pls.

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    • Ha,i feel ya.I was waiting for some groundbreaking action in front of Jumonji and Masaki,too. But it seems to be just Masaki's delusions and villains with misplaced anger. I'm still hoping the volumes would be better after translations are finished,though.

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    • Kind of agree, especially this part "He deployed Rupture repeatedly faster than Inagaki´s ability to flood psion form his body so Inagaki was defeated" really is so anti-climatic. I was expecting a little challenge at least. I really hope it gets better.

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    • 77.176.27.69 wrote:
      Kind of agree, especially this part "He deployed Rupture repeatedly faster than Inagaki´s ability to flood psion form his body so Inagaki was defeated" really is so anti-climatic. I was expecting a little challenge at least. I really hope it gets better.

      I found this even more unreasonable, Tat's decomposition is aka superpower then why the hell can't he redeploys it faster than rupture which needs activition sequence???? Tat can just use partial decomposition to thrash Toshikazu the same way as Masaki do. Oh...forgot he always uses pistol, he probably doesnt know M16 or machine guns.

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    • Did you seriously expect Toshikazu and Inagaki to be a match to Tatsuya and Masaki? Masaki and Juumonji are already aware of Tatsuya's strength and that he is from the mysterious Yotsuba family. He even used Decomposition in front of the former, the days where his might was not known are gone ever since the second year.

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    • Nah at this point I would just be happy about a few capable villians who at least challenge them a little.

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    • you guys have to remember that this novel is heavy on the politics. so most of the problems even gu jie's schemes were on the political side. he works behind the scenes and from afar not a close contact type of villain, besides we're not sure if he is the the main villain in this novel, you never know. personally i think the yotsuba sponsor is gonna be trouble especially the way he talked about tatsuya.

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    • Tatsuya is overpowered. He killed everything in few second. I hope that Tatsuya get more enemies with more power and more brain as he. It's very boring, when Tatsuya win every situation/fight easily. And the most annoying char is Miyuki with her brother-complex.

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    • I don't mind Tatsuya being OP. I prefer strong characters who spend the majority of their time hiding or holding back. It's better than a lot of the "popular" stories where every arc the characters go through a "power up" or reveal a "new move/ability" no one possibly knew about. Those kind of stories get ridiculous fast, like Naruto/Bleach/Fairy Tail. Atleast One Man Punch or One Piece are pretty honest about what's what.

      But I think it's kind of obvious that his secret (SCM, Silver) wont be outed until near the end of the story, if at all. He probably wouldn't be able to finish high school if his secrets came out to the public.  It's kind of like in Harry Potter where Voldermort revealed himself and Harry had to ditch school. But this story is litterally about being "The Irregular At Magic High School".

      (Edit) I know this counters what I just stated, but I'd like to see a side story, OVA, or movie about a 101st side mission, including Tatsuya along. Those character personailities are pretty interesting. They also bring about a different side(?) or aspect of  Tatsuya.

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    • Well, Tatsuya always ship Miyuki with Masaki, i heard from spoilers that Tat kept a distance from them, gave them privacy moment when those two watching a movie.

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    • Elymanthos wrote:
      To be frank. i'm kind of tired of hiding true ability plot of Tatsuya. I expected to see him trashing his opponent in this volume easily in front of every powerhouses in the story especially Masaki. I don't understand why still bother hiding his abilities when we are closing to the end of story. I wish to see ppl looking at Tatsuya with awe, worship and even extreme fear.

      There are a lot of letdown fights in this volume where after being spoiled i do not even want to reread for the details when it is translated. Normally i would happily reread each volume many times in clound nine but this arc or to be precise since 18 i lost the drive to follow the story. Not to mention the incompetence of Gue Jie, his student, Zhou Gong Jin, caused more havocs than himself in terms of both casualty and the difficulty to take down. Zhou's deeds ranged from Yokohama invasion, conspiracy with Saegusa/Kudos, causing insurrection by manipulating traditionalist and finally took his own life, such a great antagonist.  On the other hand, without USNA interference, Gu Jie would be lying dead since last volume and in fact he did not inflict any significant damage to japanese magical community. I don't even need to point out that Yotsuba suffered none or very little.

      I'm sorry for blabblerring but let's me vent a little pls.

      I agree with you, right from the 1st arc, this series either has a climatic ending or a plot twist, like climatic ending in Enrollment Arc (showdown between Tatsuya V/s terrorists), NSC (showdown between Tatsuya & Masaki & also Tatsuya & No Head Dragon), etc, & plot twists in Yokohama Disturbance (Tatsuya using Material Burst), Yotsuba Succession (Miyuki being engaged to Tatsuya & Maya calling them cousins), etc.

      Even the final showdown feels anti-climatic from the spoilers. The author is also working on another story and so may have been distracted. 

      Someone above said, that Gu Jie wasn't actually wasn't a combat fighter. Yes, he was capable of intellectual warfare. A battle of wits between him & Tatsuya was what I was expecting.


      Nero110 wrote: Did you seriously expect Toshikazu and Inagaki to be a match to Tatsuya and Masaki? Masaki and Juumonji are already aware of Tatsuya's strength and that he is from the mysterious Yotsuba family. He even used Decomposition in front of the former, the days where his might was not known are gone ever since the second year.

      It isn't supposed to be Tatsuya & Masaki V/s Toshikazu & Inagaki, but Tatsuya & Masaki V/s Gu Hie & his puppets (Toshikazu & Inagaki).

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      I found this even more unreasonable, Tat's decomposition is aka superpower then why the hell can't he redeploys it faster than rupture which needs activition sequence???? Tat can just use partial decomposition to thrash Toshikazu the same way as Masaki do. Oh...forgot he always uses pistol, he probably doesnt know M16 or machine guns.

      check this answer, also he was using Silver-Torus

      http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=5801533&postcount=1079

      and this

      http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=5801574&postcount=1080

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    • lol at that tatsuya singing karaoke. is he tone deaf?

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    • Tatsuya suck at singing although Honoka loved it anyway. Tatsuya sings without embarrassment egged on by Leo. It is pretty much like the fanart. Tatsuya is a master at bowling, it should come as no surprise. Tatsuya got a strike on the first try - anon /a

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    • and Masaki and Miyuki saw a movie together. That movie Miyuki want to see but Tatsuya not interested. When Masaki and Miyuki saw a movie together Tatsuya gave them their space. - anon /a 

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    • Does this happen right after Gujie's assasination ?

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    • Yes,

      • It's actually about all the characters and the aftermath of Gu Jie events. It's just Masaki's thoughts on everyone at 1st high, Tatsuya is the one mentioned the most. In it we learn that after some time Erika was able to smile again. That is why Miyuki is happy to see Erika. Masaki and Miyuki saw a movie. The group also went out together.
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    • Some more stuff:

      Masaki is still the heir but Akane will be the heir if Masaki goes to Yotsuba. So now, she has to prepare training as if she will be the heir just in case. At this point no ship is sunk and the author will milk the shipping until the end. The author has given some hope to all ships in this arc.

      There is still rivalry in that Masaki compares himself with Tatsuya and what would Tatsuya do etc. but I would say much friendlier than before. Masaki pausing to check on Tatsuya when his motorcycle gets destroyed and Tatsuya telling him to just go on and finish the mission. It shows if anything they can work together very well. They meet after so there must be some degree of communication.

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    • What happend to the USNA agents they captured?

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    • Seriously don't like the whole "Masaki and Miyuki going to see a movie." I mean, what happened to all those chapters of development where supposedly Miyuki is disgusted to be with other men besides Tatsuya?

      I seriously hope this does not lead to Masaki x Miyuki. If it does lead to that, then it'd be like all the volumes up to now were a complete waste. All the development for a last minute switch.

      Hopefully its like someone mentioned before, that Masaki is just the last hurdle before Miyuki and Tatsuya end up together.

      Don't get me wrong, I think Tatsuya would go well with any girl from the story, but it just makes the most sense that he will be with Miyuki when you consider everything. That or HAREM!!!

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    • There has been no develoment between him and Miyuki, only social development through engagement initiated by Maya. Tatsuya's feelings for Miyuki are the same since the beginning.

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    • 130.221.224.7 wrote:
      Seriously don't like the whole "Masaki and Miyuki going to see a movie." I mean, what happened to all those chapters of development where supposedly Miyuki is disgusted to be with other men besides Tatsuya?

      I seriously hope this does not lead to Masaki x Miyuki. If it does lead to that, then it'd be like all the volumes up to now were a complete waste. All the development for a last minute switch.

      Hopefully its like someone mentioned before, that Masaki is just the last hurdle before Miyuki and Tatsuya end up together.

      Don't get me wrong, I think Tatsuya would go well with any girl from the story, but it just makes the most sense that he will be with Miyuki when you consider everything. That or HAREM!!!

      I think there was a spoiler from vol 18 that said Miyuki was under the impression that trying to engage them was Masaki's father's idea and he was being forced to go along  with it. I highly doubt that Miyuki viewed going to the movies with him as an actual date. I feel like Masaki making plans for the future to attend university with Tatsuya might indicate that Masaki won't be surviving to the end of the series.

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    • Nero110 wrote:
      There has been no develoment between him and Miyuki, only social development through engagement initiated by Maya. Tatsuya's feelings for Miyuki are the same since the beginning.

      lol have we been reading the same series? I hope you're not serious with what you just wrote. Please re-read all the volumes before posting again.

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    • 130.221.224.7 wrote:
      Nero110 wrote:
      There has been no develoment between him and Miyuki, only social development through engagement initiated by Maya. Tatsuya's feelings for Miyuki are the same since the beginning.
      lol have we been reading the same series? I hope you're not serious with what you just wrote. Please re-read all the volumes before posting again.


      I am serious. Tatsuya's feelings have always been the same ie botherly love, there has been no development. If you think I am wrong do tell me hw his feelings changed because I don't see it.

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    • Maya is like a happy fan girl of Tats-yuki shipping 

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    • Even if miyuki doesn't enjoy masakis company, remember that maya said he had permission to court her. She will keep apareances because she was raised to be an ojo-sama and hide her emotions in a social setting.

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    • Not sure this from which chapter but I assumed more details for Chapter 1


      1. Gu Jie thinks, Chiba Toshikazu has potential that he has never seen for a human material.

      2. Gu Jie needs one more day to make Toshikazu as a generator, but after he sensed somebody(Tatsuya) was tracking magic of Oumi Kazkyo, he decides to move out of Oumi Kazkyo's house. (Of course, Oumi Kazkyo was killed by Gu Jie while Tatsuya was tracking him. When the scene changes from Tatsuya to Gu Jie, Oumi Kazkyo was already dead, so he never made an actual entrance in the novel. )

      3. Toshikazu is not a generator but a soldier prepared to die (死兵). Seems like, a generator can be used longer. 

      4. Gu Jie has a dagger with complicated decorations. He killed Oumi Kazkyo with it. After he decides to give up turning Chiba Toshikazu into a generator, Gu Jie heads to the room where Toshikazu and Inagaki were laying down with this dagger.

      5. After Momosaki (head master) and Yaosaka (vice head master) heard the story from Izumi, and Momosaki assumed, humanist attacks are no longer targeting students randomly since they noticed Izumi as a daughter of Saegusa and Miyuki's student president. Momosaki suspended the school until 23rd (saturday).

      6. Mayumi was the one who suggested placing protection details (bodyguards) on Miyuki. The idea was rejected because regardless of Mayumi's honest intention, bodyguards would be chosen and sent by Saegusa Koichi. Later, the idea of placing Saegusa clan's protection details was completely abandoned because this idea of using Miyuki as a bait was based on the assumption that Miyuki was targeted because she is a heir of Yotsuba, but Miyuki proved, she was targeted because she is the student president while Izumi was being targeted because of her family background. So, Katsuto asked about Mayumi's safety. At the end, the discussion ends with Mayumi trying to explain that she is safe and does not need additional protection. 

      7. In the meeting, it was not directly mentioned who came up with the idea of using Miyuki as a bait. 

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    • Nero110 wrote:


      I am serious. Tatsuya's feelings have always been the same ie botherly love, there has been no development. If you think I am wrong do tell me hw his feelings changed because I don't see it.

      Right, He begins to develop more emotion toward other characters, it's clearly showing progress, only his emotion toward Miyuki is still the same as the beginning.

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    • The next volume would be a collection of SS previously published in Dengeki magazine as well as new SS then volume 21 will be the new arc were Tatsuya and the others will be in their Third year(I guess another round of Nine School Competition and Thesis Competition)unless things break out seriously thus cancelling those events. Satou sensei said that the next enemy will be someone who was on Tatsuya's side who was helping them but this time they will be against each other.

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    • FLS Carnage wrote:
      130.221.224.7 wrote:
      Seriously don't like the whole "Masaki and Miyuki going to see a movie." I mean, what happened to all those chapters of development where supposedly Miyuki is disgusted to be with other men besides Tatsuya?

      I seriously hope this does not lead to Masaki x Miyuki. If it does lead to that, then it'd be like all the volumes up to now were a complete waste. All the development for a last minute switch.

      Hopefully its like someone mentioned before, that Masaki is just the last hurdle before Miyuki and Tatsuya end up together.

      Don't get me wrong, I think Tatsuya would go well with any girl from the story, but it just makes the most sense that he will be with Miyuki when you consider everything. That or HAREM!!!

      I think there was a spoiler from vol 18 that said Miyuki was under the impression that trying to engage them was Masaki's father's idea and he was being forced to go along  with it. I highly doubt that Miyuki viewed going to the movies with him as an actual date. I feel like Masaki making plans for the future to attend university with Tatsuya might indicate that Masaki won't be surviving to the end of the series.

      Right, there is also a possibility of Tatsuya asking Miyuki to go just for the sake of last outing before Masaki go back to his school. I can't imagine Miyuki agreed on a date without coaxing by Tatsuya.

      Anyway, am i the only one having an extreme excitement when read Tat kicking Erika ruthlessly? I personally think it is the most interesting scene in v19.

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    • I feel like Erika would have been upset if Tatsuya had pulled his punches or taken her lightly, but I do find it interesting that he didn't even wait for her to stand up before attacking her. Since as it was a duel and not an actual fight I'd have expected him to at least let her get ready before destroying her.

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    • 113.210.190.223 wrote:
      The next volume would be a collection of SS previously published in Dengeki magazine as well as new SS then volume 21 will be the new arc were Tatsuya and the others will be in their Third year(I guess another round of Nine School Competition and Thesis Competition)unless things break out seriously thus cancelling those events. Satou sensei said that the next enemy will be someone who was on Tatsuya's side who was helping them but this time they will be against each other.


      "the next enemy will be someone who was on Tatsuya's side who was helping them"

      Wow, maybe Yakumo sensei ?

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    • 113.210.190.223 wrote:
      The next volume would be a collection of SS previously published in Dengeki magazine as well as new SS then volume 21 will be the new arc were Tatsuya and the others will be in their Third year(I guess another round of Nine School Competition and Thesis Competition)unless things break out seriously thus cancelling those events. Satou sensei said that the next enemy will be someone who was on Tatsuya's side who was helping them but this time they will be against each other.

      There might be or should be at least 1 Volume about the new students joining First High & about those characters. Maybe, Kuroba siblings will be allowed now to transfer into First High as well. Then, I guess will the NSC for Tatsuya's 3rd year to begin.

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    • Chapter by Mashigan AS updated

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    • @Sid92 If Kuroba sibling transfer to 1st high, surely 1st high will get easy win.

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    • As expected there is no way Miyuki would go on date with Masaki alone without condition. Tatsuya you are sucha cockblocker. Erika you are the best girl in this chapter, quite amusing.

      Also, as imagined Kyoko hasn't developed any deep feelings towards Toshikazu. Somehow, i feel her a bit cold after reading though.

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    • Macho44 wrote:
      @Sid92 If Kuroba sibling transfer to 1st high, surely 1st high will get easy win.

      Yeah, they would then just fly to victory. But it's possible considering that they originally wanted to attend with Tatsuya & with his identity now revealed as Maya's son. Also, transfers are possible from the fact that Masaki wanted to transfer to First High (if I'm not wrong) but was asked to just study there with First High's resources but with the syllabus of Third High.
      I guess it all finally depends on Maya.

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    • 113.163.128.140 wrote:
      Nero110 wrote:


      I am serious. Tatsuya's feelings have always been the same ie botherly love, there has been no development. If you think I am wrong do tell me hw his feelings changed because I don't see it.

      Right, He begins to develop more emotion toward other characters, it's clearly showing progress, only his emotion toward Miyuki is still the same as the beginning.

      Yes, I agree, because even the spoilers say the same (refer the section "From Illustration number 2" under Fulll Spoilers). It says that Tatsuya recognizes Miyuki as something to protect as a guardian.

      Well, I thought that now at least the guardian part would be changed, don't know what the author means to say by using it. Maybe we should wait for the translations to understand that.

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    • The more I read about vol. 19 the less I am interessted in reading it. What a major disappointment.

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    • I think the new enemy in volume 20 that used to be on Tatsuya's side might be the military. Maybe the USNA wants them to go to war over the threat of material burst, and Japan decides they should eliminate tatsuya. Not people from his own unit the 101, but maybe another unit. The other group may be Yakumo and the ninjas. But I don't think they would go that route.

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    • 66.55.150.180 wrote:
      I think the new enemy in volume 20 that used to be on Tatsuya's side might be the military. Maybe the USNA wants them to go to war over the threat of material burst, and Japan decides they should eliminate tatsuya. Not people from his own unit the 101, but maybe another unit. The other group may be Yakumo and the ninjas. But I don't think they would go that route.


      Tatsuya is an asset too precious to be eliminated.

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    • Nero110 wrote:
      66.55.150.180 wrote:
      I think the new enemy in volume 20 that used to be on Tatsuya's side might be the military. Maybe the USNA wants them to go to war over the threat of material burst, and Japan decides they should eliminate tatsuya. Not people from his own unit the 101, but maybe another unit. The other group may be Yakumo and the ninjas. But I don't think they would go that route.

      Tatsuya is an asset too precious to be eliminated.

      What if it became public that person who caused scorched halloween was Yotsuba; people are already fearful of the yotsuba, and if comes out that they also have a stragetic class magician? I think that could stir up a lot of resentment

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    • 66.55.150.180 wrote:
      Nero110 wrote:
      66.55.150.180 wrote:
      I think the new enemy in volume 20 that used to be on Tatsuya's side might be the military. Maybe the USNA wants them to go to war over the threat of material burst, and Japan decides they should eliminate tatsuya. Not people from his own unit the 101, but maybe another unit. The other group may be Yakumo and the ninjas. But I don't think they would go that route.

      Tatsuya is an asset too precious to be eliminated.
      What if it became public that person who caused scorched halloween was Yotsuba; people are already fearful of the yotsuba, and if comes out that they also have a stragetic class magician? I think that could stir up a lot of resentment

      It is not that difficult for Yotsuba to handle that case. Basically, Tatsuya protected the country both the times from foreign invasion. The Yotsuba can keep on grinding this until the public opinion changes turns positive towards them. They can use a lot of arguments, such as Tatsuya is completely safe as long as the Yotsuba are safe (some facts might me changed by them for the general public, like instead of telling them that Miyuki should be kept safe, they can say that as long as Yotsuba are not targeted.) Also, that there is no way, Tatsuya would run wild as his emotions have been stripped. And how Tatsuya helped minimize the casualties of friendly forces and annihilated the enemies. Having a healthy SC Magician is better for the country (Japan's other SC Magician is that healthy), and also her SC Magic is limited in usability as it depends on water. Well, a lot of various other arguments can be made in such cases. The politicians can be persuaded or threatened (well they would already harbor some fears towards the Yotsuba as it is).

      Considering Maya's personality, this won't be that difficult for her. Just saying, fighting is not the only way to make things move, or solve anything.

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    • I can see Juumonji being the antagonist for the next arc. Their already having some disagreements here and there even though they have been on the same side since the beginning. Brion Lance also could be put to good use agains th Phylanx

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    • i think the sponsor or whoever the sponsor commands(such as yakumo may be or very unlikely the phantom lady Ono sensei)to against tatsuya. as to why the sponsor may do that, to test tatsuya may be. but yeah thats only a theory without good facts to back it up.

      But if the enemy will be from the 10mc, the trigger for that would be a secret of tatsuya would become known to all which will force the 10mc to move.

      As for the military, since saitou sensei said an ally of tatsuya who helps them will go against them next chapter, if its military only 101 fits that criteria, since the other military units dont know which unit he is in or if his is even part of any military unit.

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    • 66.55.150.180 wrote:
      Nero110 wrote:
      66.55.150.180 wrote:
      I think the new enemy in volume 20 that used to be on Tatsuya's side might be the military. Maybe the USNA wants them to go to war over the threat of material burst, and Japan decides they should eliminate tatsuya. Not people from his own unit the 101, but maybe another unit. The other group may be Yakumo and the ninjas. But I don't think they would go that route.

      Tatsuya is an asset too precious to be eliminated.
      What if it became public that person who caused scorched halloween was Yotsuba; people are already fearful of the yotsuba, and if comes out that they also have a stragetic class magician? I think that could stir up a lot of resentment


      Then there could be a war between Japan and USNA.

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    • I think the people who are trying to get into the way of the engagement might very realistically be the opponents next time around. So that would be the Saegusa and Ichijou. Either one of the two, or both. The other clans don't really have anything against Yotsuba.

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    • 88.114.52.203 wrote:
      I think the people who are trying to get into the way of the engagement might very realistically be the opponents next time around. So that would be the Saegusa and Ichijou. Either one of the two, or both. The other clans don't really have anything against Yotsuba.


      Bullshit. Heres something from the preview: "The next volume would be a collection of SS previously published in Dengeki magazine as well as new SS then volume 21 will be the new arc were Tatsuya and the others will be in their Third year(I guess another round of Nine School Competition and Thesis Competition)unless things break out seriously thus cancelling those events. Satou sensei said that the next enemy will be someone who was on Tatsuya's side who was helping them but this time they will be against each other." Neither one of them was on Tatsuyas side. In my opinion it´s going to be the military or Yakumo.

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      Bullshit. Heres something from the preview: "The next volume would be a collection of SS previously published in Dengeki magazine as well as new SS then volume 21 will be the new arc were Tatsuya and the others will be in their Third year(I guess another round of Nine School Competition and Thesis Competition)unless things break out seriously thus cancelling those events. Satou sensei said that the next enemy will be someone who was on Tatsuya's side who was helping them but this time they will be against each other." Neither one of them was on Tatsuyas side. In my opinion it´s going to be the military or Yakumo.

      Why are you getting so worked up? They were on the same side just in the last volume. You aren't making sense.

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    • what if the same side was the yotsuba family itself? 

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    • 203.111.224.46 wrote:
      what if the same side was the yotsuba family itself? 

      It's possible but unlikely. The only people who seem to be getting into Yotsuba's way or have a problem with them, while having worked with them before are Saegusa and Ichijou. 

      Kudou maybe as well. But that's a bit less likely now, after they've stepped out of the 10MC. 

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    • It won't be the Yotsuba. Maya needs Tatsuya on her side and the branch houses have never been Tatsuya's allies and Mitsugu has told Tatsuya to his face that he considers him an enemy. I'm thinking it might be Juumonji, why else bring up the point that Baryon Lance can defeat Phalanx if it isn't going to happen.

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    • Sid92 wrote:
      113.163.128.140 wrote:
      Nero110 wrote:


      I am serious. Tatsuya's feelings have always been the same ie botherly love, there has been no development. If you think I am wrong do tell me hw his feelings changed because I don't see it.

      Right, He begins to develop more emotion toward other characters, it's clearly showing progress, only his emotion toward Miyuki is still the same as the beginning.
      Yes, I agree, because even the spoilers say the same (refer the section "From Illustration number 2" under Fulll Spoilers). It says that Tatsuya recognizes Miyuki as something to protect as a guardian.

      Well, I thought that now at least the guardian part would be changed, don't know what the author means to say by using it. Maybe we should wait for the translations to understand that.

      lol you Mayumi shippers never cease to amaze me. You'll say anything to convince yourself that someone else has a chance.

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    • 130.221.224.7 wrote:
      lol you Mayumi shippers never cease to amaze me. You'll say anything to convince yourself that someone else has a chance.

      Lol ikr!  I know its still a rough translation but come on...

      Especially understanding that Miyuki must have a fiancé, makes it harder to resist…" Tatsuya's reply was merely a polite remark. It wasn't because he was required to be the fiancé but probably rather because he absolutely could not let go of Miyuki. - LN 17

      Tatsuya knows he doesn't really HAVE to be her fiance. But even he admits the whole thing is easier to go along with based off his own emotion(?) and choices... he can't let her go, "absolutely" cant.


      On an another note: I think there's a possibiltiy that if it is someone from the magical communities it doesn't have to be Yakumo neccessarily at this point in time, he only moves when it involves ancient magic secrets. He admited National Defense, Magical politics and such have little meaning to him and his disciples.  

      I think that while a fight within the military or 10MSC is a possibility, it might be one of his closer friends like Erika or Mikihiko. The Chiba family has to reappoint a new heir, most likely Naotsugu who probably already has mixed feelings about Tatsuya due to the whole losing to Sirius, and who knows whom the Ancient Magic families are going to side with? 

      Another possibility is from the USNA, Lina of course, but I was thinking of the Sage that helped Tatsuya during the Visitor Arc. 

      (Edit) Although I haven't read 18, it seems there is something majorly suspicious in the higher up chain of command (USNA) whether military or political. When they send the team after Gu Jie, it's not to capture but in reality to silence. I understand during the Visitor Arc the former Stars were basically "new" individuals that had intel on government secrets so thats explained.  So why are they so scared of Gu Jie falling into Japanese hands?

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      I think the USNA need to keep him out of Japan's hands as they don't want japan to know that the explosives were from USNA. Moreover,Gujie is one of the 7sages ,so,i guess they wanted more info on the Echelon from him by capturing him alive.

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    • this is my first time commenting on any of the chapters even though i have read all 18 of them and the spoilers of the 19 chapter so please don't comment to harshly but weather miyuki and tatsuya end up together really isn't the biggest thing i just wish even if she realises that tatsuya is the only one for her i just hope she would realise people like masaki and maybe other men could truly care for her where its coming for a good place because it might help her expand herself as a person and increase her character development than souly just wanting and caring about her brother only and about tatsuya personally i am a him and mayumi shipper only because she has never shown and malace or wrong doing intention to him that would really hurt him or miyuki in contrary trying to help and support both of them and on multiple occasions he has been in true awe of her beauty and magic power and just her as a person truly down to the bottom of his heart mutiple times even if she might be alittle much for him sometimes so even if its him and muyuki in the end i hope he can atleast voice to her in his own way that everything they have been through together all of their interactions have great meaning to him because she truly was one of the fist people to truly acknowlegde everything about him but enough about the relationship aspects like alot of people i thought the ending of the deaths were alittle anticlimantic and too fast but hopefully the next chapter will say why of just push foreward with making it better with the ally being the enemy and it can't be saegusa or ichijou because i doubt mayumi or ichijou would do anything to hurt tatsuya or miyuki and if anything they would warn them even if it went against their family and llike alot of you i hope its juumonji so tatsuya can use byron lancer and his phalanx and be a great fight or it would be the kudou family and the other family with 9 in their name because they follow his word like its law and he is scared of the yotsuba growing strength but what i hope its thats its not lina because if it was i think it would just be a chance for him to try and save her or them to get closer or something and no like but whatever the futuer holds for all the characters i just hope it gets better and more exciting 

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    • would like to know katsuto's true feelings toward mayumi i know he was kind of vague with tatsuya and in their profiles under their relations ships they don't see eachother than as just good friends and business aquatinances but in this chapter he seemed to really worry about her with the whole body guard thing would kind of like to know his true deep down feelings to see his stone like appearance break for a minute or even a second if its talking about her

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    • ^

      Well as far as Mayumi is concerned, even with the whole 10MC thing, Katsuto has always been what she has considered a rival.  I guess in school and competition wise is what she is refering too.  I remember her saying/thinking that at some point early on in the LN.

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    • 130.221.224.7 wrote:
      Sid92 wrote:
      113.163.128.140 wrote:
      Nero110 wrote:


      I am serious. Tatsuya's feelings have always been the same ie botherly love, there has been no development. If you think I am wrong do tell me hw his feelings changed because I don't see it.

      Right, He begins to develop more emotion toward other characters, it's clearly showing progress, only his emotion toward Miyuki is still the same as the beginning.
      Yes, I agree, because even the spoilers say the same (refer the section "From Illustration number 2" under Fulll Spoilers). It says that Tatsuya recognizes Miyuki as something to protect as a guardian.

      Well, I thought that now at least the guardian part would be changed, don't know what the author means to say by using it. Maybe we should wait for the translations to understand that.

      lol you Mayumi shippers never cease to amaze me. You'll say anything to convince yourself that someone else has a chance.


      I don't know where you got any idea about Me being Mayumi shipper. It actually seems YOU are the one who seems to be biased. Because I was only stating it as a matter of fact (from the spoilers).
      I'm not particularly shipping anyone, but I expect at least one of the female MC to end up being paired with Tatsuya. And I think, this is quite reasonable to expect from a story like this.
      Just don't put words into my mouth (especially by misinterpreting the meaning).

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    • Well with all the shipping aside.  Although officially Tatsuya is no longer her guardian, especially with Minami brought in, did anyone actually think he would stop guarding her!?

      Again shipping aside, Miyuki IS the one thing he can genuinely feel emotion for(currently), what would make anyone think he would personally choose to stop protecting or appear as her guardian becuase Yotsuba has "officially" acknowledged him. That would be like for you to stop protecting the thing you care about most becuase someone (whom you don't trust) told you "you don't have too" anymore!?

      Unless Miyuki dies, he will always protect her even if he ends up with someone else. 


      OneSingularity wrote:
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      I think the USNA need to keep him out of Japan's hands as they don't want japan to know that the explosives were from USNA. Moreover,Gujie is one of the 7sages ,so,i guess they wanted more info on the Echelon from him by capturing him alive.

      Oh I know that Tatsuya and Maya know that Gu Jie was a Sage, was he "outted" to the USNA?  And whether officially Japan knows about the missles, Maya does right? 

      I don't understand why covering the fact a known terrorist stole missles, isn't that what terrorists and criminal syndicates do in order to cause chaos or make profit respectively? Just seems to be some alterior motive in the background for being against his arrest and obstructing the Japanese manhunt. 

      Makes more sense that he had help from within the USNA and those politicians or officers are ordering his termination before it comes out. It could possibly be the same guys that were going to collude with GAA by not helping their ally Japan during the invasions. Remember Zhou Gonjin was being directed by Gu Jie to help instigate in order weaken both sides. Also it was said the humanists group was strongly active on the east coast of USNA, thats why Shizuku had to go to Berkley.

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    • ^

      Knowing is different from proving it. If they caught Gujie,Japan could get a confession out of him and use it to blame USNA.

      The fact that Gujie stole missiles would be embarrasing to the USNA.

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    • OneSingularity wrote:
      ^

      Knowing is different from proving it. If they caught Gujie,Japan could get a confession out of him and use it to blame USNA.

      The fact that Gujie stole missiles would be embarrasing to the USNA.

      I do see the point politically.  It just seems odd... if they did know he was a Sage, why not capture him to get information about Hlioskajf (did i spell that right? lol). I mean wouldn't bringing in a Sage and getting one of those access devices be best? Maybe the devices get locked out though.

      I just find it odd still, with him gone does that automatically disslove the humanists group back home? I doubt it, I mean they would probably be splintered and be easier to deal with but had they brough him in they could of learned tons. But instead of capture which Canopus did get to him first, they'd rather execute him. Thats pretty odd.

      (edit) The one point I forgot to mention in my previous post about Gu Jie and some unknown USNA official, was that when the theft of the missles was discovered the USNA opted not to inform Japan nor their own military command Stars. The only reason the info spread was due to the other Sage (or did i misread that?). That could also point to someone trying to buy Gu Jie time to attack Japan, perhaps the same colluders (is that word? yes Google confirms lol) during GAA attacks to weaken Japan?

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    • ^The problem is the persons who knew about the conspiracy b/n USNA and Gue Jie are either under USNA jurisdiction or death. I don't think Raymond would go so far as to leak that info to Japan sides.

      I still try simulate the situation which may spark the new conflict b/n Japan and USNA otherwise we won't be able to see Lina appearing again. Only Tatsuya'real identity as Mahesvara being exposed may force the stars to move, i couldn't think of other reasons.

      It's possibly though that Lina may fight along side Tatsuya as allies against the last boss. However, considering the next villain is someone who used to provide supports to Tatsuya, Lina joining is not likely going to happen.

      For the villains of the next arc, many guess he should be Katsuto. I personally bet for Karzama(under the forced order or duress). Katsuto is too righteous to coax for condemning Yotsuba or to pitch him against Tatsuya. Others 10MC are to weak for being a serious threats, even Saegusa now is being weaken due to Koichi's blunder. If Koichi want to entice others to do his bidder, who would believe him due to his low credibility. Koudo also is out of the picture. Not to mentions Maya's influences over other head of 10MC(in good ways from Tat's past deeds).

      (edited) there is spoiler saying that that someone appears in name only and it will be a large scales battle so i guess Aoba then.

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      Everybody agree's Katsuto becuase Tatsuya has the new ability, Baryon Lance. It could be a possible forshadow. However, I feel Katsuto is too much of a boy scout, it would have to be something antogonistic to the 10MC or Japan for him to act and by that point most of the 10MC would join forces with him. The reason I stress could, is becuase Masaki trained his rupture to fight against Gram Demolition, by that logic he's going to join forces with Katsuto.

      I mean when you find a weakness, isn't logical to fix it? That's what Tatsuya and Masaki did. And Tatsuya did it after his experience with Contact-type Gram Demolition it just happens to work against Phalanx.

      I also find it difficult to see Kazama becuase of the foreshadow that international peace will be breaking soon, if anything the 101 might be deployed on mission when Tatsuya needs help and is left to fend for himself. And Yakumo would only become an enemy if it has something to do with their ancient dogma, even in the end I think Yakumo would side with Tatsuya. Otherwise why train a possible future enemy? Unless this entire time he's been fixating and targeted on Miyuki, through weird flirtatious dialogue, for some reason.

      Technically speaking, the sponsor of Yotsuba was indirectly helping Tatsuya through Yakumo (according to spoilers) so technically he could be the former ally. Biggest foreshadow is in the LN 17 preview translation it said Tatsuya felt unease and was afraid. It also seemed that he has ties to Ancient Magic, so maybe he persuades Yakumo or Ancient Magic families such as Yoshida?

      (Edit) The only thing I can see the 10MC's attacking Tatsuya is if he's framed for something. Seems weird the Saegusa brothers are being introduced all of sudden. Is Kouichi above sacrificing one of his own, murder, in order to weaken Yotsuba? Or perhaps a son kills the father?

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    • My guess about the reason for USNA killing Gu Jie is he might have known some state secrets about USNA, which the USNA later on found out were leaked and/or possibly from the other sage who removed Gu Jie's Sage rights' for Hliðskjálf and so they had to stop Gu Jie from falling into the hands on Japan & leaking out those secrets to them.


      On another note, thinking about it, it was Toshikazu's doing that Tatsuya at all got involved in the Vampire event. He (Toshikazu) asked Leo for support in his own investigation of unknown risk, got him injured. Tatsuya as a friend then passively got involved due to Erika & Mikihiko's involvement. Otherwise, even if Mayumi & Katsuto would have asked his help, he wouldn't be so much involved, because he wasn't directly related & he could then spend his time on research instead. Also this caused the USNA Stars to come in contact with him due to that. And then, Tatsuya asked for Yotsuba's support & Maya did the clean up of the USNA.
      So, maybe be this is more simplistic thinking of mine & maybe I'm probably a little biased (negatively) towards Toshikazu, but getting a high schooler involved into an high-level investigation (Visitor Arc) or taking an enemy lightly (Omni ka.. something, name is given in the spoilers at the top, so please refer there). These two fairly simple mistakes got him killed.

      Also, maybe the reason that Tatsuya was not going easy on Erika during the dual was probably because he did not have any guilt-conscious (because he wasn't trying to kill Toshikazu until there was no option he could think of), otherwise he probably would have let Erika hit as much as she wanted. Well, it wouldn't have left any scars (he could later on just use self-restoration on himself).

      Anyways, take my opinion about Toshikazu with a pinch of salt as I'm a little biased (and that too negatively).

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    • My guess for the next enemy is going to be the 10MC.  With the Yotsuba not ending the engagement and the whole "checks and balance" thing mentioned by Kuduo, they will probably move to reduce the power of the Yotsuba.  Now as for which members of the 10MC that will get involved is tough to say, like I can see the Saegusa and Ichijou getting involved but not all the members would be for it (like Mayumi and Masaki etc.)

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    • 75.112.183.114 wrote: My guess for the next enemy is going to be the 10MC.  With the Yotsuba not ending the engagement and the whole "checks and balance" thing mentioned by Kuduo, they will probably move to reduce the power of the Yotsuba.  Now as for which members of the 10MC that will get involved is tough to say, like I can see the Saegusa and Ichijou getting involved but not all the members would be for it (like Mayumi and Masaki etc.)

      Koichi is the only one really focused on the power balance with Kudou out of the 10 MC. Gouki wasn't motivated by power balance, it was wanting to ensure that magicians fulfill their duty to continue to produce healthy offspring and to help Masaki. Koichi may be able to persuade the Juumonji and Itsuwa to go along with him maybe given their closer ties. The only way I see Gouki going along with it is if he sees them as some kind of threat, I say this because Akane had a bad feeling, scared reaction to Tatsuya. I guess Izumi had a similar assessment of him. It wasn't stated what Akane's basis or powers were for her to say that about Tatsuya. My guess is he's not entirely human, maybe some kind of demon spirit etc. and that is where Aoba the sponsor will come into play.

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    • 166.137.240.48 wrote:

      Koichi is the only one really focused on the power balance with Kudou out of the 10 MC. Gouki wasn't motivated by power balance, it was wanting to ensure that magicians fulfill their duty to continue to produce healthy offspring and to help Masaki. Koichi may be able to persuade the Juumonji and Itsuwa to go along with him maybe given their closer ties. The only way I see Gouki going along with it is if he sees them as some kind of threat, I say this because Akane had a bad feeling, scared reaction to Tatsuya. I guess Izumi had a similar assessment of him. It wasn't stated what Akane's basis or powers were for her to say that about Tatsuya. My guess is he's not entirely human, maybe some kind of demon spirit etc. and that is where Aoba the sponsor will come into play.

      I think it was very interesting how Akane felt that Tatsuya was scary, and even told Masaki to be careful around him. Also the same reaction from Isumi. 

      I don't think it's anything supernatural though. Tatsuya can very easily come off as a psychopath. 

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    • ^

      I guess I had a different opinion on how Isumi saw Tatsuya. She does indeed seem some what apprehensive of Tatsuya, but she also seemed to be revered by him. I mean she really is the only character so far to suspect that he "sees" the world differently from everyone else.

      Haven't read Akane's actual dialogue, but from the few instances we have seen her, she is inteligent, witty and like her brother highly instictual. She has a tendency to show up to catch Masaki and George in a potentially "compromising" conversation. I think her fear is based off her instincts, like how Kirihara can sense Tatsuya's "true nature".  Also like Kasumi, it probably irritates her that Tatsuya does not react normally to teasing or antagonism. Except unlike Kasumi, it makes Akane feel more wary.


      @Sid92

      Yea, Tatsuya initially got involved due to Toshi and Leo. But really not any of the groups hunting the parasites had any solutions other than to kill them. Which would only allow the parasites to jump into another magician, so I think eventually he would have gotten involved regardless of Leo's injuries. They may have eventually possesed a student of 1st High. He was the only one who was able to come up with a way to kill or subdue them, although Koudo may have had a way, but pretty much the parasites were captured(stolen) after Tatsuya or Mikihiko knocked them out.

      Also the Stars, were already looking at Tatsuya. Lina's original purpose at 1st High was to surveil him. And in reality the reason they backed off was becuase Lina lost and Yotsuba intervening by contacting Virginia Balance.

      (Edit) We really didn't get a lot of info on Toshikazu. But I have to agree with you he does seem overly reckless. I think in the spoilers, this is mentioned by someone too. Even though Erika called him a playboy he was completely stammering and at a loss on how to deal with Fujibayashi, so I think Erika was joking. He reminds of Naruto from that anime/manga. He rushes head first into a situation disregarding the danger level. The only problem is... although he was top tier swordsman, an A-rank magician he did not seem to be.

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    • Toshikazu was a top tier cop and swordsman, I think the whole Gu Je crisis required him to act quickly and bravely not like a coward(sitting back and getting paid like normal cops, lazy government workers and cowardly soldiers) because Gu Je could had destroy the lives of mages in Japan and the USNA or the GAA would had taken advantage of that. Toshikazu does not have a reset button like Ta-kun, Ta-kun would had died a few times without regrow, for goodness sake he even got sniped by a non mage(which was dumb cause he has ES), he always holds back and I see that as being more reckless than Toshikazu by not using in ES in battles from the start and his banned magic. More so everyone in the 101 would had died in combat multiple times if not for Ta-kun. Kotoyo boyfriend got unlucky that he was not near ta-kun in the battle and simply died. On a side note, why do japan simple allow the USNA and the GAA to enter the country, bring weapons, kill and spy on people in the country and do nothing about it??I was asking this question since the 1st NSC cause its seem like Japan immigration laws are nonexistent but civil laws are heavily enforced on its citizen.For example only cops cans carry guns but the GAA had a shit load of them and CAD too (kill a lot citizens who had no way to defend themselves or they loved ones).Also the country have been invaded at least 3 times in the last 7 year, so why dose it is so humane and civil laws are so op, in a world that is so volatile.

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    • ^

      Well you could say Tatsuya is allowed to be reckless becuase of his Regrowth abilities. But you really can't compare Tatsuya's to Toshikazu's abilities. Just as Toshikazu has mastered his sword artes, Tatsuya has mastered the ability to simultaneously use Flash Cast and cast Regrowth below a certain health requirement. During the Steeplechase incident he was able to fight all of the parasites knowing he could repair the damage. It's his natural born ability, so why not use it in strategem? The 101 looks like they specifically have formations that take advantage of Regrowth as well. They weren't taking the front lines "kamikaze" style until Tatsuya was on his way or already there. I doubt if they knew Tatsuya wasn't going to be in formation they wouldn't have been so reckless in there attacks. 

      It's a comparative situation to the abilities of Juumongi and Masaki is why they are able to carry the front lines because they have maximized their defenses with powerful offenses. Tatsuya is allowed to be reckless because of Regrowth, it's not cheating or being foolish, he similarily takes it into account.

      I didn't mean to bash on Toshikazu, he seems like an excellent detective. And while his brother is ranked a world tier close combat expert, I believe Toshikazu is world class swordsman. At the end of the day he was up against a world class terrorist, a terrorist in which the second command of the Stars and 4 powerful 10MC members ended up pursuing. It just seems like he recklessly went straight into a dangerous situation, commendable, yet it is what it is.

      As far as the weapon laws are concerned, most likely the GAA all had illegal weapons. Even asking the question why they were allowed to have firearms seems kind of irrelevant. They either smuggled them in or bought them on the black markets. I don't know how the USNA go into Japan, most of them the 1st time seem to be part of some kind of lucrative exchange program not just with the high schools but universities and technical institutes. The second time, they smuggled themselves in just like the GAA members prior to the Yokohama incident.  Remember Toshikazu was trying to stop them but failed, and they managed to meet up with Zhou Gonjin.

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    • I think the new ennemy will be the head of Maximillian industries in Japan, who have connections with Erika and Leo. His company was used by USNA spies to infiltrate Japan (visitor arc). He has family connection with Erika and maybe connection with DNA research from germanian soldiers (Leo is one of product from german research). Tatsuya talked about his worries about Maximilian after the stellar funrace experiment. We learned that Leo received a CAD after a work for Maximillian but we don't know what kind of work. Since the Visitor Arc, the head talked with Tatsuya but it was only mentionned after the event. 

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    • Soory mistake from me Rozen have connection with Erika and leo and not the Maximillian industries but still the same idea. Rozen is often named since arc visitor.

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    • Bluestrider25 wrote:
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      I guess I had a different opinion on how Isumi saw Tatsuya. She does indeed seem some what apprehensive of Tatsuya, but she also seemed to be revered by him. I mean she really is the only character so far to suspect that he "sees" the world differently from everyone else.

      Haven't read Akane's actual dialogue, but from the few instances we have seen her, she is inteligent, witty and like her brother highly instictual. She has a tendency to show up to catch Masaki and George in a potentially "compromising" conversation. I think her fear is based off her instincts, like how Kirihara can sense Tatsuya's "true nature".  Also like Kasumi, it probably irritates her that Tatsuya does not react normally to teasing or antagonism. Except unlike Kasumi, it makes Akane feel more wary.


      @Sid92

      Yea, Tatsuya initially got involved due to Toshi and Leo. But really not any of the groups hunting the parasites had any solutions other than to kill them. Which would only allow the parasites to jump into another magician, so I think eventually he would have gotten involved regardless of Leo's injuries. They may have eventually possesed a student of 1st High. He was the only one who was able to come up with a way to kill or subdue them, although Koudo may have had a way, but pretty much the parasites were captured(stolen) after Tatsuya or Mikihiko knocked them out.

      Also the Stars, were already looking at Tatsuya. Lina's original purpose at 1st High was to surveil him. And in reality the reason they backed off was becuase Lina lost and Yotsuba intervening by contacting Virginia Balance.

      (Edit) We really didn't get a lot of info on Toshikazu. But I have to agree with you he does seem overly reckless. I think in the spoilers, this is mentioned by someone too. Even though Erika called him a playboy he was completely stammering and at a loss on how to deal with Fujibayashi, so I think Erika was joking. He reminds of Naruto from that anime/manga. He rushes head first into a situation disregarding the danger level. The only problem is... although he was top tier swordsman, an A-rank magician he did not seem to be.

      I'm not talking about the "what if" situations that you seem to be considering about. Basically, if you are considering "what if" scenarios then you must remember that
      a) there are 'n' number of possible outcomes (or maybe even infinite)
      b) there are a lot of factors that play a part for the passing of a particular event. the event that has passed is because the other factors played their respective roles in it.

      I'm only stating the incident which made Leo the "Linchpin" which caused the Tatsuya to get involved. Maybe if Leo wouldn't been attacked then Tatsuya wouldn't have participated in the whole incident. Maybe he would have, as it may have been inevitable. BUT the timing of that is also very important.

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    • I for one really want to read about Rozen and Erika. Actually, i even want to see Satou writes it in separate arc. Let's see volume 20 first whether Satou will clarify the linkage b/n Erika and Rozen. I however strongly believe that Leo somehow is related to Rozen and is performing a watchdog duty for them.

      Rozen related plot could be expanded if Satou wish to. It also fall under spoiler for next arc, the name that has been mentioned but never made an appearance before.

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    • @Sid92

      Leo wasn't a "Linchpin". You are pretty much describing him as one. You are basically saying that, IF he, Leo, wasn't attacked Tatsuya wouldn't have gotten involved!? That in itself is a "what if" scenario. A fact: the Saegusa-Juumongi alliance would of still been active regardless of Leo's status, causing Kodou to still have been interested which ultimately would have peaked the interests of the Yotsuba which they were keeping watch. So even IF Leo had not gotten attacked, you can't say for certain Tatsuya wouldn't have gotten involved at some point either.

      (Edit: By that logic if Toshi hadn't gotten Leo involved, Leo might have been possessed or killed on his walk home or maybe even Toshi had he not taken a break to talk to Leo. We don't know. Or heck maybe got blindsided by a car if he hadn't gone into that bar. Either way, we're both doing "what if" scenarios. lol )

      My "what-if" was basically saying, since he was really the only one shown to actually come up with a way to disable the parasites, until he got involved (whenever that may have been) more magician lives, through possession, would of been the cost and at some point it may have been someone close to home.


      @86.193.35.51

      Nice catch! Yea, nice catch with the Leo-Rosen connection. I wonder what that was all about? I had initially thought they had mistaken him for Erika's fiance(?) in my head. But maybe it is something more sinister at work. Totally forgot about that.

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      Spoiler for Vol.19 Spoiler

      • Toudou Aoba calls Yakumo as a reincarnation of Kasin Koji(果心居士). According to Aoba, Yakumo has a Genjutsu / illusion technique that made the world to call him as second coming(reincarnation) of Kasin. And, When Yakumo says, he is nobody, Aoba replies, if Yakumo is nobody and powerless(weak), there isn't any sorcerer (magician) who can be labeled as powerful.
      • Yakumo calls Yotsuba as Aoba's subordinates, but Aoba corrects Yakumo and says, Yotsuba is no longer his subordinates, and he claims, he is just a Sponsor. But, Yakumo also knows, Aoba is not just a sponsor to Yotsuba. And, Yakumo also knows, Yotsuba is not only one that Aoba is sponsoring.
      • Yakumo initially rejects Aoba's request by using Hieizan and its rule that forbids its members(monks) to interfere with the real world. But, Aoba already got the permission from Hieizan. As a result, Yakumo loses any excuse to reject the Aoba's request. However, Yakumo still says, he will make a decision based on Aoba's request. The author also points out Yakumo is only one who can reply Aoba's request in this way because even Kudou Retsu cannot reject any request from Aoba.
      • When Yakumo asked Aoba whether Aoba is a supporter of Tatsuya, Aoba answered by saying, He may be a product (a (peace of) work, (作品)), which was acquired coincidentally(unexpectedly), but he is still one research subject. He has to be useful in the future as well. When Aoba says useful, it means being useful as a guinea pig to provide more data. After hearing Aoba's words, Yakumo feels sympathetic towards Tatsuya because Aoba's influence is wide, and Yakumo assumes it will be very hard even for Tatsuya to get away from Aoba's influence (hand).
      • According to narrator (the author), Aoba does not concern 10 MC's current circumstance, and Aoba may be much better off if 10MC gets cornered.
      • Aoba wants to pay Yakumo for his service. He offered 10 cushions: Cushion is a form of secret language (隱語) during the era where people used paper currency. One cushion = 100 Million Yen (USD 896,379) and ten cushion = 1 Billion Yen (USD 8,963,785). Yakumo rejects the offer, but Aoba says that there is nothing more expensive than free. Aoba tells Yakumo that he will choose a suitable statue of Buddha, which will be made of pure gold.


      Spoiler for Personal interpretation and information:

      • Toudou Aoba recognized Yakumo as one of the most powerful magicians.
      • It may be just my personal interpretation, but I think, Aoba may be sponsoring few more families among 10MC and 18 assistant families or magician related factions such as Hieizan or even military division similar to 101 battalion.
      • It is very hard to say whether Yakumo can reject Aoba because of his character, or he has some hidden power or influence compared to Retsu. Personally, I think, it is due to Yakumo's character, but we can also expect additional information regarding Yakumo such as his position in Hieizan or among old traditional magicians.
      • For now, Aoba may be sponsoring Tatsuya indirectly because of his own interest. Seems like, Aoba and Tatsuya will make the first meeting in the near future.
      • In Kyoto Arc, the author used two key words as foreshadowing for Yotsuba Inheritance Arc. He used the word, "作品" (A piece of work ; product) for Kudou Minoru and used "名作"(Master piece; a fine piece) for Miyuki. It was a forshadowing that Miyuki is a genetically altered magician just like Minoru but a perfect one. In vol.19, I think, the author used "作品" (A piece of work) in order to indicate that Aoba knows, Tatsuya was altered by Miya. Simply, it may also indicate Aoba knows everything about Tatsuya and Yotsuba in general.
      • In addition, "coincidentally" can also be another foreshadowing for the future arc. He may only mean, Tatsuya's decomposition and regrowth magic. Or, it may be elemental sight, which was not created artificially. (So far, no one claimed, they are responsible for his elemental sight.) Personally, I am betting, it is his elemental sight mainly because Toudou Aoba also seems to have a special eye.
      • We may need more information why Aoba would be better off if 10MC gets cornered. Maybe, Aoba may sustain or strengthen his influence over Yotsuba and the rest of 10MC if 10MC's situation does not get improved and needs helps from higher power such as Aoba.


      Spoiler for Information on Kasin Koji(果心居士)

      • Kasin Koji(果心居士): Kasin is a legendary illusionist / Genjutsu master(幻術使い). There are many stories of Kasin with very famous historic figures from Sengoku Period.
      • Matsunaga Hisahide: Matsunaga had an ambition to use Kasin and his ability. Matsunaga invited and requested Kasin to perform an illusion. When Kasin performed illusion, everything became dark in front of Matsunaga. Suddenly, a woman appeared in the hallway and opened the door. And, she came next to Matsunaga and said, "Tonight, do not go to another woman" with very thin and scary voice. The woman was Matsunaga's first wife who was already dead. Matsunaga yelled and asked Kasin to stop the illusion.
      • Oda Nobunaga: Nobunaga heard about the painting that Kasin drew. It was a depiction of hell and showed how horrifying hell is. Nobunaga requested Kasin to hand over the drawing to him, but it was rejected. So, Nobunaga dispatched his men to take the painting with the force. When Nobunaga got the painting scroll and opened it. There was nothing on the scroll.
      • Akechi Mitsuhide: After killing his boss, Oda Nobunaga, Mitsuhide threw the party for his men and allies and invited Kasin to perform an illusion. In the room, there was a a folding screen [屛風] with a painting of river and a boat. When Kasin used his sorcery, he went into the painting and was on the boat. Then, suddenly (river) water came out of the painting. The place was suddenly flooded. And, in this chaos Kasin banished while riding the boat. After Kasin banished, the place turned back to normal. On the way out of Mitsuhide's territory, Kasin met Tsutsui Junkei who was heading to Mistuhide in order to join his force. Kasin told Junkei to go back and warned Junkei that Mitsuhide will not last. Junkei took Kasin's advice and went back home. Just like Kasin's prediction, Mitsuhide lost the battle and was killed by peasants.
      • Toyotomi Hideyoshi: Hideoyoshi also invited and ordered Kasin to perform an illusion. Similar to Matsunaga's story, the room turned dark, and a woman appeared. A woman was a victim who was raped and killed by Hideyoshi. The woman blamed Hideyoshi. Hideyoshi became furious and ordered his men to execute Kasin. Right before the execution, Kasin became a mouse and rode a black kite (Milvus migrans), and he flew out of the Hideyoshi's place.
      • Tokugawa Ieyasu: Kasin often showed up at Ieyasu's place and had friendly chats with him.
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    • I hope the next villain will be a strong guy and gives MC a decent challenge, previous villains are quite disappointed.

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    • 113.182.243.112 wrote:
      I hope the next villain will be a strong guy and gives MC a decent challenge, previous villains are quite disappointed.

      Well, it may be members of the 10MCs. If the sponsor of Yotsuba, doesn't care for the 10MC's and has other clans in his pocket plus foregin organizations, we may see the the 10MC's come apart? That would surely make the theory of Juumongi vs. Tatsuya come true. Potential betrayals, possible shippings affected and not to mention the foreshadow of international warfare...its so exciting! I cant wait!!  :D 

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    • Bluestrider25 wrote:
      @Sid92

      Leo wasn't a "Linchpin". You are pretty much describing him as one. You are basically saying that, IF he, Leo, wasn't attacked Tatsuya wouldn't have gotten involved!? That in itself is a "what if" scenario. A fact: the Saegusa-Juumongi alliance would of still been active regardless of Leo's status, causing Kodou to still have been interested which ultimately would have peaked the interests of the Yotsuba which they were keeping watch. So even IF Leo had not gotten attacked, you can't say for certain Tatsuya wouldn't have gotten involved at some point either.

      (Edit: By that logic if Toshi hadn't gotten Leo involved, Leo might have been possessed or killed on his walk home or maybe even Toshi had he not taken a break to talk to Leo. We don't know. Or heck maybe got blindsided by a car if he hadn't gone into that bar. Either way, we're both doing "what if" scenarios. lol )

      My "what-if" was basically saying, since he was really the only one shown to actually come up with a way to disable the parasites, until he got involved (whenever that may have been) more magician lives, through possession, would of been the cost and at some point it may have been someone close to home.

      @ Bluestrider

      Either you have not read my full comment or you have not undersood it at all. Unfortunately, I wasn't talking about 'what if' situations. It'd be better to re-read my previous comment instead of me repeating it here. I ask you to take that efforts to re-read it and also understand it properly.

      I never gave a 'what-if' scenario - & this is the one of things I want you to understand. I only stated point from the current story. Also, it is now pointless to discuss the 'what-if' situations now (& so I never gave a what-if situation).

      Another is, Please don't state your own words or interpretations as someone else's statements. In short - don't put words in my mouth. (It is better you ask and confirm instead of assuming something)

      Also, I'm not looking for any debate about this point, as I already stated in my earlier comment here is the link. Please read the last point again from this comment. I hope this makes you understand that there is no point in unnecessary arguments.

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      @ Bluestrider

      Either you have not read my full comment or you have not undersood it at all. Unfortunately, I wasn't talking about 'what if' situations. It'd be better to re-read my previous comment instead of me repeating it here. I ask you to take that efforts to re-read it and also understand it properly.

      I never gave a 'what-if' scenario - & this is the one of things I want you to understand. I only stated point from the current story. Also, it is now pointless to discuss the 'what-if' situations now (& so I never gave a what-if situation).

      Another is, Please don't state your own words or interpretations as someone else's statements. In short - don't put words in my mouth. (It is better you ask and confirm instead of assuming something)

      Also, I'm not looking for any debate about this point, as I already stated in my earlier comment here is the link. Please read the last point again from this comment. I hope this makes you understand that there is no point in unnecessary arguments.

      I understand. Just for the record, I did indeed read your original post. There has also been a slight edit that you added at some point that i did not read the first time through, on that you have my apologies.

      Again for the record this is a post you added later:

      Sid92 wrote:


      Bluestrider25 wrote:
      ^

      I guess I had a different opinion on how Isumi saw Tatsuya. She does indeed seem some what apprehensive of Tatsuya, but she also seemed to be revered by him. I mean she really is the only character so far to suspect that he "sees" the world differently from everyone else.

      Haven't read Akane's actual dialogue, but from the few instances we have seen her, she is inteligent, witty and like her brother highly instictual. She has a tendency to show up to catch Masaki and George in a potentially "compromising" conversation. I think her fear is based off her instincts, like how Kirihara can sense Tatsuya's "true nature".  Also like Kasumi, it probably irritates her that Tatsuya does not react normally to teasing or antagonism. Except unlike Kasumi, it makes Akane feel more wary.


      @Sid92

      Yea, Tatsuya initially got involved due to Toshi and Leo. But really not any of the groups hunting the parasites had any solutions other than to kill them. Which would only allow the parasites to jump into another magician, so I think eventually he would have gotten involved regardless of Leo's injuries. They may have eventually possesed a student of 1st High. He was the only one who was able to come up with a way to kill or subdue them, although Koudo may have had a way, but pretty much the parasites were captured(stolen) after Tatsuya or Mikihiko knocked them out.

      Also the Stars, were already looking at Tatsuya. Lina's original purpose at 1st High was to surveil him. And in reality the reason they backed off was becuase Lina lost and Yotsuba intervening by contacting Virginia Balance.

      (Edit) We really didn't get a lot of info on Toshikazu. But I have to agree with you he does seem overly reckless. I think in the spoilers, this is mentioned by someone too. Even though Erika called him a playboy he was completely stammering and at a loss on how to deal with Fujibayashi, so I think Erika was joking. He reminds of Naruto from that anime/manga. He rushes head first into a situation disregarding the danger level. The only problem is... although he was top tier swordsman, an A-rank magician he did not seem to be.

      I'm not talking about the "what if" situations that you seem to be considering about. Basically, if you are considering "what if" scenarios then you must remember that
      a) there are 'n' number of possible outcomes (or maybe even infinite)

      b) there are a lot of factors that play a part for the passing of a particular event. the event that has passed is because the other factors played their respective roles in it.

      I'm only stating the incident which made Leo the "Linchpin" which caused the Tatsuya to get involved. Maybe if Leo wouldn't been attacked then Tatsuya wouldn't have participated in the whole incident. Maybe he would have, as it may have been inevitable. BUT the timing of that is also very important.

      Then in this later rebuttal, although agreed the outcome was inevitable, you used the words "Maybe if Leo, Tatsuya wouldn't have, Maybe he would have.." So you can see where my confusion may have appeared. Again, my apologies, but using "if" or "would have" is a form a "what if".  I wasn't trying or attempting to "put words in your mouth", just reading, perhaps misinterpreting(?), from the words you posted.

      Misconstruing your words was never my intention. 

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    • 113.182.243.112 wrote:
      I hope the next villain will be a strong guy and gives MC a decent challenge, previous villains are quite disappointed.

      Gu je was disppointing but not his student. It took 3 monsters to bring him down.

      Who would like to see Mirou VS Lina or MirouXLina

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    • Sabman wrote:
      113.182.243.112 wrote:
      I hope the next villain will be a strong guy and gives MC a decent challenge, previous villains are quite disappointed.
      Gu je was disppointing but not his student. It took 3 monsters to bring him down.

      Who would like to see Mirou VS Lina or MirouXLina

      Just checking you mean Minoru?

      I think if Lina is out of the Tatsuya shipping running, I'd like to see her maybe with Masaki. Even if they don't get along, I have always wondered how they would react together. Not to mention, I'd like to see Lina and Mayumi hangout for some strange reason. Lina is like if Erika and Tatsuya had a kid, shes calmly brash and yet naive intellectually, imo.  Also, Lina and the Saegusa twins might be an interesting thing to witness.

      But that also might be interesting to see as well. More Minoru in general please! He's a pretty unique character. Was I the only one who got chills when his personaility made an about face when he was dealing with his driver(manservant?) and Zhou? I hope he plays a role in the future events.

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    • I really can't see a Lina x Masaki at this point. It's obvious that Masaki x Miyuki (obvio one sided) is beginning from now on ,what with the delusional prince's 'diary' and all.

      If Lina's involved it's got to be Tatsuya, because he's the only male char she has encountered so far,and the reason she has feelings for him is because he trashed her in a battle and i don't see any character capable of repeating that. 

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    • ^ Well it was vague, but I just meant watching Lina and Masaki interacting, he already thought Erika was really different from most girls he knew. I wonder how he would rate Lina!? LOL


      101.108.4.23 wrote:
      ^Exactly, i thought the same. Why the hell he still kept chasing woman when his 1st priority was chasing a dangerous villain who almost caused his father death.

      Btw, wtf about diary not to mention "my angel" please are u a gradeschooler? sigh....Masaki u failed me.

      "sigh....Masaki u failed me."

      Most favorite line of this thread so far!  :D

      (Edit) Idk why, but everytime I read that line its in "George's"(Kichijouji?) voice! :)

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    • How I imagine Minoru vs. Lina: Lina only sees that he is a very powerful magician, but doesn't know about his abilities and uses parade. Since Minoru is better with it than she, it doesn't really affect him, so he just strikes her with electricity too fast and with too strong IS for her to prevent it.

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      • He didn't say which time he would go back but Miyuki came to the station. He asked whether she came alone but Miyuki just looked to back and he found Tatsuya was standing with his back leaned on the wall.

      I can imagine this scene very well. Poor Masaki really thought he and Miyuki could be alone. He should now know that Tatsuya trusts no one.

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    • the only couple possibilities so far that would actually nake sence in the 10 master clans and the 18 asistant families are tatsuya and mayumi,tatsuya and lina, masaki and miyuki, maybe masaki and lina, i think kasami and tatsuma from the shippou family would be nice he finally gets over his revenge on the saegusa by falling in love with kasami and even though they have had verbal fights and fough for real in a way i think they understand eachother in some way and i think izumi and minoru might be nice since he has likes miyuki's looks and admires her power and minoru is basically the same except he isn't perfect like miyuki hopefully he can get healed or fixed somhow but with masaki and miyuki if probably won't ever happen because she only see's tatsuya so unless masaki can break down that barrier they will never be but if they do it would be nice because he would protect, love and cherish her without any sort of intention other than that and now with masaki and lina it would kind of be the same with him and miyuki with the whole wanting to know her and be by her because she is an insatable beauty and power magician so they might have a chance bepends if they ever interact but her interacton with tatsuya tahts really up in the air even if she comes back i know he resepcts her power and does see her beauty and can sympathise with her since they are both stragatic class magicians but with something as fue as that they need more if they can be somehting they only other girl that could really be somehting to him right now is mayumi even now with his limited amount of emotions he has been in awe of basically everything about her even if he is alittle wary because he is so untrusting because of the darkside of the magic because of his family but even then he is touched by her words and actions to the very bottom of his heart and if they continue moving forward she will be indespesible to him as somthing precious even if he ends up with miyuki because to him she is as bright as the sun and in his world of darkness her light and love will reach him that im sure of because really besides miyuki she is the only one and has been from the beginning

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    • i don't know if anyone else will agree with me but honoka needs to diie or go away and leave tatsuya alone he will never love her and honestly all she is being right now is a bother in every way and the fact that she is still pursuing him like really pursuing him while he is engaged is just really turning him off in every way atleast with mayumi he feels abliged and grateful that she hasn't fully revealed anything even if she finally figured out how she feels because even he isnlt sure but honoka really is like delusional even think i still have a chance because he needs to reproduce children because even if thats the case and he couldn't with miyuki i 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% doubt it would be with you bitch just leave them him alone and dissappear

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    • 174.58.25.106 wrote:
      i don't know if anyone else will agree with me but honoka needs to diie or go away and leave tatsuya alone he will never love her and honestly all she is being right now is a bother in every way and the fact that she is still pursuing him like really pursuing him while he is engaged is just really turning him off in every way atleast with mayumi he feels abliged and grateful that she hasn't fully revealed anything even if she finally figured out how she feels because even he isnlt sure but honoka really is like delusional even think i still have a chance because he needs to reproduce children because even if thats the case and he couldn't with miyuki i 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% doubt it would be with you bitch just leave them him alone and dissappear

      So much hatred you got there bruh

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    • 174.58.25.106 wrote:
      i don't know if anyone else will agree with me but honoka needs to diie or go away and leave tatsuya alone he will never love her and honestly all she is being right now is a bother in every way and the fact that she is still pursuing him like really pursuing him while he is engaged is just really turning him off in every way atleast with mayumi he feels abliged and grateful that she hasn't fully revealed anything even if she finally figured out how she feels because even he isnlt sure but honoka really is like delusional even think i still have a chance because he needs to reproduce children because even if thats the case and he couldn't with miyuki i 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% doubt it would be with you bitch just leave them him alone and dissappear

      Agreed! She's getting on my nerves! :D

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    • i hated honoka since the first volume ! but really tatsuya, you should have outright rejected her so she could have a real broken heart and go away once and for all. 

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    • Wow guys, calm down.

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    • i want that author will give a happy ending for tat and miyuki :) 

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    • Tatsuya x Mayumi OTP

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    • Yeah, I don't really get why Tatsuya and Miyuki don't treat the Honoka situation like a bandaid and get it over with rather than humoring her claim that she won't give up. She's their friend and it would be nicer to just tell her point blank that it isn't going to happen.

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    • Honoka is really a pain for Tatsuya and Miyuki,atleast that's how it should be,but they seem to be pretty happy with her over-the-top antics. Encouraging her to give up should be the most sensible solution. I always found her annoying but her mentality of not giving up when Tatsuya clearly rejected her is just nuts.

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    • who could be the new enemy ? :o Hope for an Happy Ending for yeah the WHOLE Yotsuba Family and TatsuyaxMiyuki and hope of a little tatsuya and little miyuki :D

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    • FLS Carnage wrote: Yeah, I don't really get why Tatsuya and Miyuki don't treat the Honoka situation like a bandaid and get it over with rather than humoring her claim that she won't give up. She's their friend and it would be nicer to just tell her point blank that it isn't going to happen.

      But they did tell her several instances, that's the thing. I think her genes just render her incapable of understanding that or at least moving on. Even if she accepts that she cannot be with Tatsuya, I'm not sure that she can ever be loyal to anyone else or love anyone else.

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    • Does anybody know why Tatsuya waned to see miyuki in a swimsuit? at 4am?

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    • ^

      I believe from what I understood from the spoilers, he wants to use his sight to find Gu Jie but doesn't feel comfortable taking his sight off Miyuki. So he calls for her so they can pretty much hold hands. I dont know why she's wearing a swimsuit tho.  Maybe it's sleepwear and she woke up?

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    • 186.77.203.79 wrote:
      Does anybody know why Tatsuya waned to see miyuki in a swimsuit? at 4am?

      I think he needed skin-to-skin contact because physical sight wasn't enough to calm down.

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    • In shippering Mahouka is predictable and boring.

      Lina x foreigner is impossible since her status as strategic class magician.

      I guess SS also includes current year 3 graduation.

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    • OneSingularity wrote:
      Honoka is really a pain for Tatsuya and Miyuki,atleast that's how it should be,but they seem to be pretty happy with her over-the-top antics. Encouraging her to give up should be the most sensible solution. I always found her annoying but her mentality of not giving up when Tatsuya clearly rejected her is just nuts.


      Her preseverence is probably resulted from being a bearer of element gene which makes her feel attachment towards Tatsuya. I don't know whether it is just a mental block but if the attachments were something like tumor in your head that changes your behavior pattern, i could feel sympathy for her. Moreover, Tat being kind and understandable towards her is kind of leading her on i.e. giving her hair ornament. Instead of rejecting her callously in V5, he tried to explain about his emotional handicap and even said he won't be able to love anyone in the future. There were no reasons to do so, merely rejection would do the job. With that said, i feel blaming everything on her is a bit unfair. Tat should partly take the blame.

      Imo, Honoka is not annoying as much as that pest prince who flies around the sibling. At least Honoka was brave enough to declare her intention to Miyuki head-on rather than choosing the mistress route. In comparison, Masaki is still acting like an indecisive daddy-boy, too much shy this and bashful that for the whole arc. While fighting a notorious villain who almost killed his father, he seemed to have a lot of free times wooing a woman. If i were him, i would feel indignant and dedicate every fibre of my brain to catch Gu Jie rather than being dormant waiting for a call from others( something like when Erika went in to frenzy try to find parasite after Leo was attacked).

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    • ^

      The one saving grace about Honoka regardless of how people see her, was that the effect of Tatsuya giving her the ornaments (gift) that result ended with Pixie. Also, due to Honoka's biological predisposition of loyalty is that Pixie is highly loyal. I wonder how that dynamic would change if Honoka diverts? That is saying that Pixie hasn't runout of usefulness to the author's story.

      Yea agreed, Masaki needs to man-up! Seriously!! That guy has some serious issues.

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    • Prediction for future volumes.  Todou Aoba or Kazama fatally over estimates their power/influence and Tatsuya kills them.  Seriously though is Maya the only person who realizes how dangerous Tatsuya is?  Todou Aoba see's Tatsuya as a research subject and Kazama see's him as a subordinate, all the others like Kudou Retsu think he is a game piece.  Maya see's the truth that Tatsuya is the most powerful weapon ever created and is loyal only to Miyuki who has her finger on the trigger.  One command from Miyuki and all the power/influence in the world will not save you from their wrath.

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    • Another thing that has become clear is that the 101 without Tatsuya is a paper tiger.  During Yokahama the 101 would have suffered significant casualities without Tatsuya and the enemy only broke after realizing Mahesvara had joined the battle.

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    • 107.197.20.240 wrote:
      Another thing that has become clear is that the 101 without Tatsuya is a paper tiger.  During Yokahama the 101 would have suffered significant casualities without Tatsuya and the enemy only broke after realizing Mahesvara had joined the battle.

      I agree a little. They are just a unit with Magicians without Tatsuya are not that strong and also don't seem to have that many members when compared to USNA's Stars.

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    • Yeah the 101 don't seem that strong.  During Yokohama teenagers from the 100 familes and the 10mc seem to be better at combat even without the Combat Suits.  Heck Leo as a Disciple of the Chiba and Yoshida Mikihiko were kicking butt, even Honoka with her optical camouflage and remote viewing was more usefull.  This is why I really hope that Volume 19 is just a lead into bigger and better story lines.  The adversaries in the 10mc arc were pretty weak overall.

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    • I agree that Tatsuya is about 50% of there combat capability. However, without including Mist Dispersal, neither Tatsuya nor Kazama(admitted by both of them) has ever been able to defeat Yanagi so far. It would be cool to get a short story of the 101 in action.

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    • tatsuya x mayumi forever the only actually real couple even when he isn't meant to have strong feelings she brings them out i guess thats right since she is from the omnopitent saegusa and impossible isn't in her vocabulary lol but fuck miyuki x tatsuya with those forced fake emotionsif he had free will of them he wouldn't even look at her twice just like now and tatsuya and mayumi would already be happening  

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    • to admin, can you please make thread for the next volume ?

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    • 174.58.25.106 wrote:
      tatsuya x mayumi forever the only actually real couple even when he isn't meant to have strong feelings she brings them out i guess thats right since she is from the omnopitent saegusa and impossible isn't in her vocabulary lol but fuck miyuki x tatsuya with those forced fake emotionsif he had free will of them he wouldn't even look at her twice just like now and tatsuya and mayumi would already be happening  

      are you sane, because i doubt that :)

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    • if you doubt it than your not reading the same thing as everyone else she has mesmorized him

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    • ^^ in your dreams sweetheart cause he only ever  felt indifference towards her. so please stop being delusional.

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    • @ Guys, don't use this thread for shipping there are a few threads for that already.

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    • Ugh, pls, at least make Mayumi and Erika both mistresses for Tatsuya, idc even if Miyuki is the 1st wife... Just don't let the 2 girls not end up with oniisama. :D

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    • @ Everyone,

      Who Is the Most Suitable Girl for Tatsuya? Post your Picks Here .... - This thread is one of the threads where you can discuss about shipping and is currently active.

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    • Pls stop this shipping business, Tatsuya has no emotion of love or like for any girl expect brotherly love for his sister, which is trapping and binding him to the Yotsuba.If Tatsuya leaves the Yotsuba then real shipping can start!!!!

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    • 104.153.128.236 wrote:
      Pls stop this shipping business, Tatsuya has no emotion of love or like for any girl expect brotherly love for his sister, which is trapping and binding him to the Yotsuba.If Tatsuya leaves the Yotsuba then real shipping can start cause he will feel the urge to pass on his genes.


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    • I truely don't understand the concept that Tatsuy leaving the Yotsuba will start "real shipping" It truely doesn't matter where he is. Because of the nature of his powers he will always be used by someone. Whether it be the 10 master clans or the government. Do Mayumi shippers seriously think that if he ends up with her he is not going to be used by Koichi? What makes it worse is that he will always be under someones tumb becuase she is not the heir, so even if Koichi dies he will be under her brothers. With the Yotsuba, Miyuki is the heir the only one above is Maya and we basically know what she wants. And when she is dead and gone Miyuki (Tatsuya) will be in charge. Really people from a logical stand point he really has nothing to lose in this situation. 

      This situatiuon will be different if the 10 master clans didn't exist. But even so like I stated above do you truely think the government will lets someone like Tatsuya walk free?  Truth be told Tatsuya isn't interested in a realtionship with anyone all he just wants to be left alone to live quietly.

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    • I for one think that, Maya won't even consider letting Tatsuya go to Saegusa by marrying him with Mayumi if she isn't the next heir of the clan. If at all then Maya might even force Kouichi to name Mayumi as the next heir and then make Kouichi retire. But anything less than that - she'll just think of it as a joke from Kouichi or anyone and laugh it off. She would probably think of it as one more pawn under her control (Saegusa: Tatsuya being the husband of Saegusa clan head).

      Well, this is all just hypotheical. :D

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    • if you really believe he doesn't have anything but indifference to mayumi you must be on crack the last time in checked feeling something from the bottom of your heart for someone is not indifference do i really need to recall all the multiple moments that just indifference toward her if her can only feel indifference toward her why was he thinking about what mari had told him about that she might feel something toward him and the fact he thought it had to be put on the back burner because it would interfere with work if he didn't feel anything why would he even put his attention to if especially if she hadn't said anything about this matter to him he isn't the type to over exert himself if not nessary right look at the facts even if its not love yet he obvioous has some romantic intrest in her and when they get together they could just leave both clans and not be affiliated with either and im sure koichi would allow it because when they have children im sure he will be fighting the yotsuba for what clan they will be apart of 

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    • everyone keeps talking about that mayumi and tatsuya can't be together because of maya and koichi and the clans and because of his power but if tatsuya makes his dream come true and makes it so magicians can't be used as human weapons all of that stuff that is saposidly holding them back if they are meant to end up together will just be gone like poof so that the end of that

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    • ^

      What is holding them back is kind of irrelevant as Mayumi's feelings are half-assed and Tatsuya rejects romance.

      Shipping aside,Tatsuya's dream is not somethibg that can be achieved overnight,it could very well take decades as [Magicians = Weapons] assumption is strongly imprinted into the minds of people.Even Tatsuya cannot overturn this philosophy instantly . So Tatsuya's ESCAPES project's success has nothing to do with Mayumi and Tatsuya's relationship. Tatsuya is all powerful,if he really,really wants to marry her ,he just has to convince Miyuki and then blow up or threaten all opposition.Quite simple,if he is really head-over-heels for her and she is willing to abandon all else for him,he will have his way.

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    • i don't think her feelings are half asses i just think like tatsuya said before she knows her position as the eldest daughter of the saegusa clans the second strongest family of the 10 master clans and because of that position i think she knows that even if she has feelings for him because of a multitude of reason she might think it might not matter but shipping aside can we get back to the magic and battle conflict please 

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    • Good Evening people.

      I have 2 questions about something I read but I got the idea that translation is incorrect . I'm sorry but I'm Portuguese and I really like the light novel .

      - The miyuki accept going to the movies with masaki without tatsuya ? Girl in volume 16 , I think, says he is "in love" with the same brother on his face. Also in her thoughtful moments he says that does not accept anyone, or want to be touched by anyone. And I got the idea that she did not like the attitude of masaki

      - Does the author with this is not to make readers get the idea that after all they were not together and there will be 2 new doubles, miyuki x masaki and tatsuya x mayumi ?

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    • NatsuDrag wrote: Good Evening people.

      I have 2 questions about something I read but I got the idea that translation is incorrect . I'm sorry but I'm Portuguese and I really like the light novel .

      - The miyuki accept going to the movies with masaki without tatsuya ? Girl in volume 16 , I think, says he is "in love" with the same brother on his face. Also in her thoughtful moments he says that does not accept anyone, or want to be touched by anyone. And I got the idea that she did not like the attitude of masaki

      - Does the author with this is not to make readers get the idea that after all they were not together and there will be 2 new doubles, miyuki x masaki and tatsuya x mayumi ?

      Let me try to answer what I think you are asking:

      -Miyuki accepts going to see a movie with Masaki alone, although Tatsuya says Minami must go along, she is Miyuki's guardian. They see a movie the day before he leaves back home. In volume 16 and before in another volume Miyuki says that she is scared of having to marry another man and being touched by another man not Tatsuya. Things like dancing are okay so I assume going to movies is not much different. She actually does not dislike Masaki, she was not happy about the objection to her engagement but understands it is more Masaki's father and does not blame him for it. She does not act cold or unkind to him. He seems to have become a friend and at least she does not mind his company. That does not mean anything else. She does not want to cancel her engagement by any means.

      -These possible ships have been around since at least volume 4 so it is nothing new. The author seems to keep most ships alive, of course he does, he wants you to keep reading until the last page. There would have to be a lot more development for Tatsuya x Mayumi or Masaki x Miyuki to actually happen. Tatsuya also still only considers Miyuki as a sister.

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    • About Aoba and Yakumo conversation theres one thing lacking, Aoba says that Tatsuya( as product)  was attained by chance yet hes the definitive/the final product.

      It may mean that Aoba created the 4th Research Institute with sole purpose of creating Tatsuya-like magician but his main aim was achieved in unexpected fashion.

      Aoba also seems to be far above Kudou in overall importance, soft power and hard power as Yotsuba may be just his lap dog.

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    • 201.52.215.46 wrote:
      About Aoba and Yakumo conversation theres one thing lacking, Aoba says that Tatsuya( as product)  was attained by chance yet hes the definitive/the final product.

      It may mean that Aoba created the 4th Research Institute with sole purpose of creating Tatsuya-like magician but his main aim was achieved in unexpected fashion.

      Aoba also seems to be far above Kudou in overall importance, soft power and hard power as Yotsuba may be just his lap dog.

      People often want things to be clear - whether good or bad, just or unjust, white or black, etc, but in reality there are a lot of gray areas (or gray shades). So I will not go so far as to say a lap dog, but yes, he more or less has some strong influence over the Yotsuba. I don't think he is in complete control or them though.
      The Yotsuba don't seem to be so submissive. They have been depicted as very strong, and if suddenly they are portrayed as weak (meek) against someone. He probably can only restrict them sometimes when needed.

      So, I think the relation between the Yotsuba and Aoba is complicated. Maybe we will be enlightened about in the future LNs.

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    • 201.52.215.46 wrote:
      About Aoba and Yakumo conversation theres one thing lacking, Aoba says that Tatsuya( as product)  was attained by chance yet hes the definitive/the final product.

      It may mean that Aoba created the 4th Research Institute with sole purpose of creating Tatsuya-like magician but his main aim was achieved in unexpected fashion.

      Aoba also seems to be far above Kudou in overall importance, soft power and hard power as Yotsuba may be just his lap dog.

      He doesn't say that Tatsuya is the definitive product.

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    • With regards to Aoba, they refer to him as a sponsor. I don't think Yotsuba is submissive to him per se. Since he was the original owner of the 4th Institute, I think his relationship can be compared to a "Grandfather" of a sorts. Without him, the Yotsuba wouldn't exist in their current form.

      I think at the present their relationship is him being a powerful Lobbyist that we see in current politics. However due to his wealth and possibly many connections he's not merely a lobbyist, but a wealthy tycoon who is most likely a powerful ancient magician.

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    • Nero110 wrote:
      201.52.215.46 wrote:
      About Aoba and Yakumo conversation theres one thing lacking, Aoba says that Tatsuya( as product)  was attained by chance yet hes the definitive/the final product.

      It may mean that Aoba created the 4th Research Institute with sole purpose of creating Tatsuya-like magician but his main aim was achieved in unexpected fashion.

      Aoba also seems to be far above Kudou in overall importance, soft power and hard power as Yotsuba may be just his lap dog.

      He doesn't say that Tatsuya is the definitive product.

      Yes I think he does he 

      Vol 19 page 83

      偶然の作品ではあるが、あの者は一つの究極だ。

      [That one] is an product of chance, that person is an ultimate/definitive [product].

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    • I think the following translation is more accurate.

      Vol 19 page 83

      Aoba says:

      偶然の作品ではあるが、あの者は一つの究極だ。

      [Although that one] is an product of chance, that person is an ultimate/definitive [product].

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    • Aoba having no bodyguards is kind of strange. He is in such a high position that his safety must be important. Maybe he is very secretive &\ he is very powerful as a magician?

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    • 死波 wrote:

      I think the following translation is more accurate.

      Vol 19 page 83

      Aoba says:

      偶然の作品ではあるが、あの者は一つの究極だ。

      [Although that one] is an product of chance, that person is an ultimate/definitive [product].

      From what we know of the 4th Institute, it's pretty much the study and improvement of the Magic Calculation Area.

      That being the case, is Tatsuya being appraised for his natural (BS) abilities of Regrowth, Decomposition and Elemental Sight? Or is it the fact that while not as strong as a normal magician he has a successful "Artifical MCA" that does allow him to use magic including Flash Cast?

      I'm curious becuase while obvious his birth abilities are indeed phenominal, it's said that every Yotsuba is born with different abilities, so I find it hard to believe this is what the final product is refering too. On the other hand, if you could artifically expand the MCA or give artifical MCA's to regular humans through experiment, that would be game changing and world changing. 

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    • When the sponsor of Yotsuba himself thinks of Tatsuya as the Tatsuya the Ultimate product , a majority of the Yotsubas used to treat him as trash. So it's almost like the Yotsubas have a free reign despite having Aoba's funding. This is not very surprising as the Yotsubas are a family and even if Aoba is their sponsor,he is still an outsider, so they won't let him interfere into their 'family matters'.

      On a side note,what did Aoba's side think when Yotsuba lost half their fighting strength in the Untouchable incident and even faced risk of treason due to terrorism? As their sponsors,they should'nt be too pleased with such recklessness. This incident took place over months , so the sponsors should've had a chance of stopping them. The fact that they did not could mean that the sponsor was scared of them or, conversely, thought that reckless revenge would be counterproductive, to instill fear in the world.

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    • Bluestrider25 wrote:
      死波 wrote:

      I think the following translation is more accurate.

      Vol 19 page 83

      Aoba says:

      偶然の作品ではあるが、あの者は一つの究極だ。

      [Although that one] is an product of chance, that person is an ultimate/definitive [product].

      From what we know of the 4th Institute, it's pretty much the study and improvement of the Magic Calculation Area.

      That being the case, is Tatsuya being appraised for his natural (BS) abilities of Regrowth, Decomposition and Elemental Sight? Or is it the fact that while not as strong as a normal magician he has a successful "Artifical MCA" that does allow him to use magic including Flash Cast?

      I'm curious becuase while obvious his birth abilities are indeed phenominal, it's said that every Yotsuba is born with different abilities, so I find it hard to believe this is what the final product is refering too. On the other hand, if you could artifically expand the MCA or give artifical MCA's to regular humans through experiment, that would be game changing and world changing. 

      I am theorizing that Aoba was aiming to produce Elemental Sight-able magician, probably theres some universal secret hes trying to uncover but Elemental Sight is needed.


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    • OneSingularity wrote:
      Aoba having no bodyguards is kind of strange. He is in such a high position that his safety must be important. Maybe he is very secretive &\ he is very powerful as a magician?

      His illusion magic seems to be either unbeatable or strong enough to make him highly regarded by Yakumo himself, hes like the rebirth from an ancient legendary illusionist.

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